Is there any reason to focus on 'solo' players..?

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Originally Posted by Celtodeno

Aroy, please just ignore people like Dubont. I know there are plenty of them as MMO's have the unfortunate side effect of attracting socially inept adolescents. Mainly becuase they won't have to talk face to face with people and take responsibility for what they say, but there are also plenty on adults(and even mature socially capable young adults) who will be happy to share info if they can. Point being just don't respond to someone like that once you figure out what kind of person they are and don't hold back questions even if a troll pops up.

Oh btw I still want your Sig

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lol wtf? You saying I'm a kid? I'll have you know I'm 22 and a Senior in college at UAB, studying Medical Technology and Computer Science. Now, enough about my personal life =D. I'm sharing info. If you notice, I posted a link in my last reply that shows many basic text commands for the game. I seem harsh when I comment, but really..how can you get to r20 and not have at least heard about Lodestone or any of the database sites like PRO, YG, etc etc? That's not the fault of SE, that is the fault of the player for being too lazy to want to figure anything out themselves.

this game is defenetly going toward the smaller groups, yoshi or whatever his name is said servers are smaller then ffxi ...they already droped our party groups to smaller ones, they talk bout 4 and 8 man dungeons to come witch i think is a mistake. since it's the first endgame why not make it like sky? u can have full ls's running around doing it and u can do it all day and nite not some dinky dungeon u can only do 2times a week and then be bored again.

search function is fail but on top of that so is the population of all the servers, if they aren't expecting them to be full then they are removing the ability of ease. it's why people are rather solo then party, if the pop was packed like ffxi launch and stayed like that lol, every inch of all the zones would be packed and even solo players would walk in like ok i'll party. it was very easy for first many years to keep a party of 6 going in any zone and rank and was easy to keep it going all day and nite, even the crazy hours wasn't horrible.

if u just like solo in general, or u'r casual and only want to play a few hours then it will just take u longer to do, it makes sense, that's how math works. even if they make it casual to shit u'd probably still be complaining that someone else did it in a day rather then a month like u. u'r not complaining that u only have 2hrs a day, u'r complaining that u don't have years to invest in a game, people not casual do. hell go buy some gold or a pl and we all win lol.

but like someone said it's basically t3wo groups trying to push the games towards what makes them happy, and i don't know what is truth to who makes these companies more money, but i picture most casuals like locust hoping around game to game not really staying long for any of them, less it's the repetitive endgame they only want to repeat over and over with a larger group?

the problem i say is that these mmo's are just not being made right, they need to change it up so it works for everyone and they need to remove all the bullshit in them, make grouping up easy as showing up somewhere, stop with the hours of running places to do things(we get it u waist lot of resources making it pretty for us but like the casual would agree, theres a pretty real world out there we can look at, i can give two shits if it was stick figures long as the content was good.)

if the imaginary score to beat the game is 100hours of game play, make it 100hours for both party play and Solo = win
if it take 2hr/100 then don't complain that is how many hours u play, if i can do it in a week then good for me, if we both do it with or without a party, we still did it. and done.

i still not sure why they make it so we can't even grind half the mobs in the game either, guess the point is too give jollies to like 20people in the mmo world that like to think i was first one to figure it out witch mob to kill? then what? that fits offliners not onliners any who.

Let me get this straight.

Your argument is that we're expected to do the equivalent of looking up a GameFAQs guide? And you're telling me to think back to the days of the first games when to get anything like that you had to buy it from a store for 20 bucks?(I can't recall, but was Prima selling game guides back then?)

And you're telling me that my argument is invalid?

And for the record everyone I know who has played that game has complained about how the original FF was like that, and how 80% of that game was wandering around the world map trying to figure out where you are supposed to be next. Everyone.

Dude, 8/10. You're good at pretending to be serious, but I suspected you were a troll from the beginning. I gave you the benefit of the doubt because I've been accused of it when not being one far too much, but this just takes the cake.

To everyone else: thanks for your input, and yes, asking questions is a good thing, and I do a lot of it in game when I've got the chance. But even I would be annoyed to have every level 1 noob running up to me and asking how to get to Camp Bentbranch or Blackbrush and seeing /sh crowded with "Where go 2 by nu armr" would be a nightmare. The NPCs need to handle these most basic of basics, not the other players.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

Oh really? New players won't know? Well...I guess they won't know if they don't actually look at the game. If they just get the game and go "ok, let's play!" and don't look at the site AT ALL, then no...they aren't going to have the slightest clue of what's going on...but SMART people will look at the lodestone homepage and find this...

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The lack of tutorials in FFXIV is a complaint by many players that tied into the game's lack of pick-up-and-play quality and contributed to frustration and bad reviews.

No one should ever be expected to start combing the web to figure out the basics in an MMO.

Troll? No and no, looking at THE OFFICIAL SITE is not the same as looking at a guide on gamefaqs. When you first buy a game, do you not look in the instruction booklet for the key commands and such? The only difference here is that the booklet is online. There is no excuse as to why someone doesn't know about such things as /sh, /l, /p, etc.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GuideDangIt The game

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Originally Posted by Dubont

Troll? No and no, looking at THE OFFICIAL SITE is not the same as looking at a guide on gamefaqs. When you first buy a game, do you not look in the instruction booklet for the key commands and such? The only difference here is that the booklet is online. There is no excuse as to why someone doesn't know about such things as /sh, /l, /p, etc.

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Official Site =/= Instruction Booklet. I read that booklet from cover to cover. If you're serious about this, then I say they should include another booklet with all the functions explained on the site in the game case. But most important is that they feature it in game. Not all of us have the time to go to lodestone. Not all of us know it exists.

Crafting recipes being another thing that should be given in game.

There is absolutely no reason not to have these things in game. You're just trying to seem elitist and pro by saying that you were so incredibly intelligent that you never needed any of that stuff.

Reality Check: No one cares, bro. Move on.

Also grind parties should never be the norm, grinding is the most mindless thing on the planet.

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Originally Posted by ARoy

Official Site =/= Instruction Booklet. I read that booklet from cover to cover. If you're serious about this, then I say they should include another booklet with all the functions explained on the site in the game case. But most important is that they feature it in game. Not all of us have the time to go to lodestone. Not all of us know it exists.

Crafting recipes being another thing that should be given in game.

There is absolutely no reason not to have these things in game. You're just trying to seem elitist and pro by saying that you were so incredibly intelligent that you never needed any of that stuff.

Reality Check: No one cares, bro. Move on.

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No..I'm not trying to seem elitist. I'm trying to show you that it isn't really needed. Crafting recipes I can see, but an in manual? No. Also, how can you NOT know about lodestone? Where do you get update info...where do you get ANY info on the game if it's not lodestone related? How did you sign up for FFXIV without knowing about lodestone when it clearly mentions it many times during the account process. Also, if I'm correct, it mentions Lodestone in the physical manual that comes with the game. Official site =/= instruction booklet, no, but Online instruction booklet = instruction booklet.

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Originally Posted by Nephera

Also grind parties should never be the norm, grinding is the most mindless thing on the planet.

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I'll take grind parties over levequests any day.