Help I've been Nerfed and can't get my damage back up :(

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Originally Posted by Joven

From what I understood when I first signed on to this game 4 years ago was that this game was a 'Casual MMO' with endgame content. People complained constantly about how it was 'too easy' to reach endgame. Now it seems like they are totally changing gears and focusing solely on endgame which may drive away the more casual players. As to how a game is 'meant' to be played is up to the player.

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You can play however you want, but it is certainly designed with specific mechanics in mind. And yes, it will be harder to go against the flow.
Other MMOs cater to the open wold, do as you want crowd. They suffer when it comes to the structured content that FF14 is good at.

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Originally Posted by Joven

From what I understood when I first signed on to this game 4 years ago was that this game was a 'Casual MMO' with endgame content. People complained constantly about how it was 'too easy' to reach endgame. As to how a game is 'meant' to be played is up to the player.

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It was never catered as a casual mmo, if it were things like pre nerf steps of fate, Crystalis etc wouldnt have had to be nerfed. This mmo, like all other mmos, are subject to change which everyone agrees to in the EULA. What the player base says is easy and hard is entirely subjective. The Darkest Dungeon was easy for me but 90% of people that play it cant beat it or let alone get halfway through it.

You can play the game as you wish, no one said otherwise, but that doesnt mean youll be remotely optima. But the devs will adjust the game for the masses with their idea in mind not the minority. Such is any mmo.

But regardless im not telling anyone how to play their game but TC and her partner were going to hit a wall regardless. Physick would end up completely useless in the face of the damage they were about to start taking, unsync runs wont help if they are locked out of the gear they need to survive and since they cant win they cant get to said gear to over gear the fight theyll get stuck on.

Thats the price you pay for Duoing everything.

This all started with a thunder 1 complaint anyway, BLM should NEVER worry about mp regardless of what its doing. A BLM at level 47 fighting equivalent mobs with a chocobo should never get over ran if played properly.

The play style they are using is about to wall them, theyll get floored in the later dungeons and they not wanting to use duty finder to party up out of fear of being criticized means theyll get stuck.

Im trying to prevent this.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

Lots of spells and potencies for BLM have been buffed in damage to account for losing out on Raging Strikes.

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If by buffed you mean nerfed, then yes. F2 and F4 nerf and Flare scaling were the only potency changes from the top of my head. I guess you can count T1>T3 a buff? Mana costs though.

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Originally Posted by Psycofang

Yes it got traded for a stronger version with tge exact same cast time as r1 and slightly high mp cost which is neutralized by casting it during your ice phase. Which you should be doing. Casting thunder during ice phase.

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It's just that T3 costs more than B4, which was not the case with T1. Ice feels kinda clunky now at times during leveling with B1 being the only real filler. At least T3 has the same PPS as F4 now.

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Originally Posted by Waliel

If by buffed you mean nerfed, then yes. F2 and F4 nerf and Flare scaling were the only potency changes from the top of my head. I guess you can count T1>T3 a buff? Mana costs though.



It's just that T3 costs more than B4, which was not the case with T1. Ice feels kinda clunky now at times during leveling with B1 being the only real filler. At least T3 has the same PPS as F4 now.

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True but blm need to get the feel for starting in ice phase anyway especially if they ready need to wait till almost full to start casting fire 3 to meet the mp cap on cast. Going into ui 1 casting t3 and using a filler during ice phase makes this a non issue. I loved t1 as well but it changed and we need to adapt with it or stick to low level content.

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Originally Posted by Suki_Pursia

It's those lower skills I/we depended on. Thunder for the low cost, fire 1 for low cost and the level 3 versions of each only used on a proc. So how is changing this a benefit to us?

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You didn't lose fire 1. They didn't do the "forced upgrade" on skills that actually mattered, only on skills where the lower level skill became literally useless once you got the higher tier version of it. The only exception to this is Thunder, but frankly, that's not nearly as big a deal as you're making it out to be. Also, Physick on Black MAge after about lv30 was completely useless anyway, and we only ran it because there was literally nothing else to bother putting on there. As someone who's been playing since 1.0, I'm honestly finding this whole rant of yours completely offensive. You've put months into the game? I've put years into the game. This update is golden. I'm not happy with 100% of it (they took away my poledance skill from drg ; ; ), but the shit you're complaining about is a joke, and I'm pretty sure you're lying about most of what you're claiming you and your fiance are doing and how this expansion has impacted that.

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Originally Posted by Joven

just that the changes were sudden and totally messed up the flow that they had. Having to relearn rotations and buffs is a real pain.

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Don't panic bout the gameprogress... if known things are outdated just find a new flow - easy. If you can't do it yourself or are to lazy to do so keep calm and let the theorycrafter/worlds firsts do the work and wait for their shared experiences but please don't cry like a baby who lost his lollipop... guides will come. flow will come as well.

Every mmo has to evolve from time to time or it will die slowly...

Edit: I have to apologize for being harsh at you Joven but I can't stand all the crys and whining bout nerfs and changes in generell since the last three days... nearly every thread is bout mimimi - I can't understand why nobody even trys to see anything positiv bout the update... SB is not bad, it's just different than before.

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Originally Posted by Suki_Pursia

Or say using flash on a lancer or pugilist to try and save the healer? No more.

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What? I've been a drg since 2.0 launch no dps ever takes flash at the early levels. Even the other tanks rarely would take it (sometimes war would take it, one less overpower to save tp) if your taking flash to peel mobs off the healer your better off using a stun instead.

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Originally Posted by Neela

Don't panic bout the gameprogress... if known things are outdated just find a new flow - easy. If you can't do it yourself or are to lazy to do so keep calm and let the theorycrafter/worlds firsts do the work and wait for their shared experiences but please don't cry like a baby who lost his lollipop... guides will come. flow will come as well.

Every mmo has to evolve from time to time or it will die slowly...

Edit: I have to apologize for being harsh at you Joven but I can't stand all the crys and whining bout nerfs and changes in generell since the last three days... nearly every thread is bout mimimi - I can't understand why nobody even trys to see anything positiv bout the update... SB is not bad, it's just different than before.

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Personally I'm not against the change. If you had read my earlier posts I only said it was somewhat irritating. And if you had actually read the comment you replied to then you would see that I wasn't complaining.

That's why I apologized in my edit - it's just people got mad without even getting their whole toolkit yet. Every cls will find a fluent rota sooner or later. We all just have to adapt things we were used to.