RIP Customization

They should have just changed it to secondary stats instead. At least then there wouldn't be a completely terrible choice (there would still be a "correct" one though) and it would be a small amount of customisation.

Maybe give 2 points per level or something.

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Originally Posted by Felis

The main stats are at the cap anyway if you don't use crafted NQ gear. So materia is about secondary stats. Saying materia give no choices is therefor like gears with different secondary stats give no choices. So we should also remove all secondary stats.

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Yep don't see why they shouldn't it not like its a choice in which you chose for those secondary stats either for whichever (insert job) here. The way the gear is designed for each role its like the devs alrdy knew which materia that people are most likely going to use to begin with for each particular piece and in most cases can't even max those out just by looking at the meld #'s they offer.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

To me, it feels like;

• there was a transition from 1.x to 2.0 keeping some of the familiar with class combinations dovetailing into certain jobs
• 2.x to jumping straight into jobs in 3.0 with MCH, DRK and AST
• 3.x into 4 we do away with multiple classes to qualify for a job, classes are really not needed at all now.

Jobs are now advanced versions of the initial class, making class more of a tutorial into the job which you qualify for at lvl 30. Removing the multiple class requirements made cross class skills pointless, but role skills means that everyone in their role has access to the same basic tools of the trade. It feels to me like this was always on the cards from the start, but they did it slowly, perhaps so that they could initially keep some of the trappings of FFXIV 1.x?

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my guess is that was the goal but it was not achieved. That was the feel I got when I started 2.0, "Oh they are trying keep some 1.0 ties but this does not fit the game well" The reason I thought that so soon was ffiv 1.0 was built on the idea of making your own class basically. So when that was taken away then jobs get even less, it lost its purpose and trying to shoe horn a remembrance became pointless, same with the stat points.

So are these attribute points just being taken away, and now we're all essentially that much weaker? Or will they just be weaved into our main stat automatically, during leveling?

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

So are these attribute points just being taken away, and now we're all essentially that much weaker? Or will they just be weaved into our main stat automatically, during leveling?

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You'll essentially be weaker at 60 when you log in, but you'll level and get new gear that will more than compensate.

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

You'll essentially be weaker at 60 when you log in, but you'll level and get new gear that will more than compensate.

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Wow that's disappointing. :<

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Originally Posted by Roda

Wow that's disappointing. :<

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Why? You'll hit for probably less than you'd actually notice if you didn't know this tidbit and will get stronger as you go.

Nevermind that materia with a stat already present in your gear = +0% when melded.

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

You'll essentially be weaker at 60 when you log in, but you'll level and get new gear that will more than compensate.

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From 60 and up I expected the new content and gear would be balanced to expect that. But I was more thinking about the leveling experience from 1-60, where those points will make more of an impact.

Ahh, I doubt we'd really notice the difference while leveling.

As stated, the only players that benefitted were the bleeding edge world first teams, and now that we're about to rapidly outgrow and outgear the content that was tailored to include the addition of attribute points, we won't feel any sort of nerf at all.

It was also stated in the notes that exp in being boosted in general, and that the starting city-states will start selling level 50 gear and Ishgard level 60 gear to help push newer players forward.