Please increase crystal sand amounts

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Originally Posted by kattzkitti

Most people have no interest in it, or don't have the time to devote to getting them leveled due to busy real world schedules or whatever the reason may be. This is something that game devs really need to start taking intoaccount, as the vast majority of gamers nowadays are casual players who can only hop on for a short time in a given session. This is also why the F2P industry exists, and why it is so lucrative.


They make money off it because the stuff you can make at max level sells for millions per item (mostly because there's very little competition due to again, the majority of players not leveling the professions). Also, most crafters level gathering professions alongside them which makes the leveling process essentially free (and thus essentially pure profit from the sale of high level items).

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That is not what i seen. At moggles I found lots of people with max melds that I never seen a single item listed under their name. Based on seeing that and what my friend says, the low items for sale has nothing to do with players not leveling them. People do not make stuff because they do not need gil. Only a few people keep crafting just for the sake of having tons of gil even though there is nothing to do with it. gil being worthless is why the count of items to sell is so low, not the lack of people leveling crafting and gathering.

This game hands you exp, gil, and levels like I never seen (leves, gc turn in's, etc) and yet people still insist on trying to make crafting more worthless then it is currently, it is mind boggling.

I am working on my second Anima at the moment and this time I used ALL the options to get Crystal Sand.
Vilekin, Moonstones, Crafter Tokens, Tomestone Items etc
Farmed Umbrites while leveling Summoner and surprise surprise, I went from iLevel 200 to iLevel 260 in less than an hour.
The amount of Crystal Sand you get is absolutely fine, as long as you know what you are doing.

I have more issues with umbrites, than sands... I spent around 200 allowances on levefarming, and also bought sands via moonstones, and now I am basically held back by the umbrites. So umbrites are what I would make even cheaper :/

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Originally Posted by kattzkitti

The fact of the matter is that Crystal Sand is obnoxiously tedious to farm for the majority of players, as the majority don't bother with crafting/gathering. The devs really need to address the issue, especially considering it's the end of the content cycle and there's no reason to gate the Anima progression anymore.

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This is why I made this thread.. people fail to realise I am not just asking for myself, but I also have several friends who have neither any DoL/DoH leveled nor gil to burn on IV materias. I made this thread because it should be logical that if you effectively "double" the rate of umbrite acquisition that you do the same for sands to make both easier to obtain

Anyway... all those people objecting... have you considered what will happen when 4.0 hits and people are still trying to finish their relics? Tey might want those leves for battle clases, and it removes yet another method of getting sands for them.

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Originally Posted by Mayoyama

Anyway... all those people objecting... have you considered what will happen when 4.0 hits and people are still trying to finish their relics? Tey might want those leves for battle clases, and it removes yet another method of getting sands for them.

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It'll probably get nerfed again by then because it would become a glamour item just like what happened to the severely nerfed 2.0 zodiac when it was no longer relevant. Either that or they can just keep the vilekin in the chests for the new leves in the expansion (if they add any) or add a similar item and make it available as a turn-in for sand as well. Since Scripture is probably going to become the new version of poetics, they could also add a new turn-in for that as well.

It's just not that nerfed now because it is still relevant, and Diadem drops elemental materia and some of the crafted items that can be used for sand turn-in as well.

Who knows the next nerf coming down might still hit the sands.

If you don't have a crafter/gatherer, your best options are Leves, Diadem and your GC.
If you don't use leves often, then the leve grind for Ambers can get you ~20 on a good run
Diadem gives so many useless elemental IV materias that you can get them switched for sands within a fairly reasonable amount of time.
You could also go for moonstone via your GC. They cost about 4k seals but seals are easy to get by trading in gear you no longer need, hunts, etc.

Also, people need to chill out on these forums. Seriously, just because you feel differently about the topic doesn't mean you can belittle people that aren't having as easy a time as you did.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

Diadem gives so many useless elemental IV materias that you can get them switched for sands within a fairly reasonable amount of time.

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Don't forget that you can get amber vilekin from lockboxes as well

I'm still sitting on over 2 stacks of sands. All those Gordias and Midas runs before the Umbrite step released sat in my inventory. I purchased the Proto Gordias armor then trade them all in for GC Seals, then use the GC Seals for Moonstones.

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Originally Posted by Vaer

It'll probably get nerfed again by then because it would become a glamour item just like what happened to the severely nerfed 2.0 zodiac when it was no longer relevant... It's just not that nerfed now because it is still relevant, and Diadem drops elemental materia and some of the crafted items that can be used for sand turn-in as well.

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There are still some elements of the ARR relics that werent nerfed, particularly the zodiac braves stage (115->125), where it still costs 400k (4x 100k items), 80k GC seals, 1600 poetics (easy part) and 8 HQ crafted items, that have ingredients that come only from desynth (they never changed these like they did the unidentifiables stage) and if you are on a server where people live to jack prices up, and you dont know anyone with desyth you can be paying up to 150k extra PER ITEM (on my server anyway)

This is why I have concern about the feasibility of completing 3.x relics in stormblood, thus my making this thread

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

Also, people need to chill out on these forums. Seriously, just because you feel differently about the topic doesn't mean you can belittle people that aren't having as easy a time as you did.

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Thank you.

People forget that others are in different situations to themselves and are forever failing to even try understanding the other person's point of view. Less hate, more compassion and consideration would certainly be refreshing.. we'd certainly get more constructive threads and discussions if this were the case.