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Originally Posted by Miste

I said it is "not proven" so therefore claiming it as true is pointless since you can't prove it. It serves no purpose except to be rude to a specific region of players.

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Apparently you have selective memory or cannot read either, as you were the one trying to claim it was a false statement. By your own argument, you cannot.

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Also kind of hypocritical to claim I went on a tangent; if you recall you were the one who brought up scientific theories.

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And yet you were the one who went on for several paragraphs about god knows what. Funny, isn't it?

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It's fine to believe it for yourself if you want, but you came in here and tried to pass your opinion off as fact when it isn't. So I asked you to prove it and you still haven't btw.

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It is, actually. You're just preferring to stick your head in the sand about it because my "evidence" doesn't meet your own criteria.

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You didn't read my post or didn't understand it; one or both idk :)

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...and do little more than conveniently side step the issue once again. Is there a point to this?

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

Apparently you have selective memory or cannot read either, as you were the one trying to claim it was a false statement. By your own argument, you cannot.

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You were the one trying to claim one region is better than the other, in the first post of this string of replies, as a true statement. Which you cannot, so I told you this truth holds no water because you have no factual statistics to back it up.

You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you, but since you know you can't prove it you keep trying to use my argument against me when I wasn't the one who made the claim in the first place.

I mean it was like...

You: *makes claim*

Me: can I have proof since you are making that claim? because it seems to me no one can prove that one region is better than another, we have no factual statistical data to determine that

You: no because I have no real proof...so I'm just going to drive this in circles by telling you to prove I'm wrong instead of owning up to what I claimed in the first place

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

It is, actually. You're just preferring to stick your head in the sand about it because my "evidence" doesn't meet your own criteria.
...and do little more than conveniently side step the issue once again. Is there a point to this?

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You've been side stepping me since my first response. Have you forgotten you still haven't provided proof outside of your own and a couple of other player's experiences? If that is all you have it is only subjective and not factual proof.

Its like if me and a few friends went outside and saw a fat squirrel so we come back and say "all squirrels are fat" ....obviously that is only based off of our limited experiences and definitely not the whole picture.

So again, no region is "better" than the other unless we can prove it with real data. End.

I actually have things I need to do so this is my last reply on the matter.

Were you not around for 2.0??

Do you not remember all those dungeons/raids where someone would AFK the entire time, forcing everyone to either clear without them or leave? 99% of every "in progress" dungeon or raid was an abandoned one because of the AFKer.

Basically, you're asking to go back to 2.0 except without the in progress issue. No thanks. One big thumbs down from me.

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Originally Posted by Miste

You were the one trying to claim one region is better than the other, in the first post of this string of replies, as a true statement. Which you cannot, so I told you this truth holds no water because you have no factual statistics to back it up.

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Originally Posted by Miste

stop making subjective false claims now? :)

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Hm.

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You: *makes claim*

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You: I'm going to say you're wrong when I have no evidence that this is the case and ignore the hypocrisy of my argument.

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You've been side stepping me since my first response. Have you blah blah etc.

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There has been plenty of proof, it's no problem of mine that you're attempting to ignore it with such a tenuous argument even you can't abide by it.

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So again, no region is "better" than the other unless we can prove it with real data. End.

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You can say "end" all you like, it doesn't make you any more right. The amount of topics and posts on various player experiences and data on recent Savage clears says more than enough.

I hope you find a nice dog to pet, though.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

As long as DF is random matching, it does not need have votekick but just duty abort option, while votekick still have sense in PF, when you find out players are not what they are meant to be.

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No. If someone gets a magic DC and never comes back, i want to kick that person out of my group. If a person is flaming like the idiot that he is, i want to kick that person out of my party. Abandoning a Duty because of one single person is no option.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

I think where you went wrong was not saying anything. You can't say anything that would explicitly indicate you're parsing, but simply tell the healer to help break the DPS out of Sable Orb and say the adds are dying too slow and ask the DPS to pick it up. You don't need to be rude about it, but in not saying anything, they probably just accepted what the healer said without question.

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Yeah, exactly. As I said, I was too naive, lesson learned. Better to kick the others first.

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Originally Posted by Vaer

No, there should be a way to remove problematic players without abandoning the entire instance.

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It's called Party Finder where you make your own group and then can dictate terms.