Shatter

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

When you are caught in a battle on the beach and 3 A's spawn in the caves, there is zero chance of you winning.

I'm talking about a really close match. Flames at 600/800. 3 A's spawn in the caves(instead of.. anywhere else).

Just 8 people can prevent the taking of a base. Just be defensive instead of offensive.

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Well that scenario should be pretty rare and its possible to counter that by spreading while old tomes have still 20% left or so and go for pre-cap. Seize would be pretty bad if it didnt have that RNG element so its good that its there even if you sometimes lose due RNG.

the thing is. shatter is based on Rng Lol only

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Originally Posted by FreyaKrescent

the thing is. shatter is based on Rng Lol only

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No its not lol

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

Not defensive from the beginning no. But I'm talking about being defensive when you have 600/800 points left and get lucky with 3 A/S ranks spawning within 10y of each other in the caves. It's happened too many times to count. When lucky spawns gives the win.

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Getting 3 A/S isnt luck at all its the complete opposite only way to counter is either leave all tomes (going around or on a highground with only 1way) or attack 1 team and wipe them out before they even double team your team. defensive playstyle is just bad

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Originally Posted by FreyaKrescent

the thing is. shatter is based on Rng Lol only

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Nodes cannot respawn after they're destroyed, right? And large nodes spawn only in three set locations, and under certain conditions, yes? What precisely about that is "RNG"?

There are elements of RNG to it, such as all ice spawning at the start of match except big ice, as well as all spawns on the left side of the field, the right side of the field, or the north side of the field, but after a decent number of nodes are destroyed it's quite easy to determine how your team should split and mobilize next. Seize meanwhile was an absolute disaster of trying to spread too few players over too large an area, and certain tomelith spawns were ludicrously defensible, making an assault on them nigh impossible.

I can get behind wanting a more PVP-centric map, but that also opens up far more problems with premades than an objectives-based map would. 8s can still do considerable damage in Shatter already, so I can't imagine how much they'd dominate in a mode where kills give the bulk of the scorecard.

maybe having less players requiref for a premade for frontlines would be the best option? maybe like 4

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Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3

Getting 3 A/S isnt luck at all its the complete opposite only way to counter is either leave all tomes (going around or on a highground with only 1way) or attack 1 team and wipe them out before they even double team your team. defensive playstyle is just bad

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How is 3 A/S spawning in your base area while everyone else is fighting on the other side of the map not luck???

thats when you need to push Lol

So the other day I got slept on my round laner bird mount in shatter by an twin adders blackmage, while I was asleep the whole twin adders alliance ran by me LITERALLY and not one of them attacked me. Why? because they went straight towards the ice!!! That's soooo retarded!! Its PvP dude not lemme hit the ice and run away from a real fight!!

I don't like shatter since it seems too pve oriented with all the giant ice blocks, I would prefer game modes where the actual PvP and objectives are a part of each like seal rock. You get the nodes, then you PvP to defend it.

Guess People attacking ice is player vs player right? ...