Scholar rant.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

I think SCH complexity is slightly overrated.

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I have to agree. I am probably comparing apples to oranges, but I found DRG to be more strenuous to learn and play than SCH. Not to mention, I am a PS4 player who doesn't use a single macro; though I probably should because there are some great macros that I am to lazy to use. That and I am too comfortable with using thr R1 button for hotbar switching to change my play style. (I also attribute my history with playing games that require twitch, but precise reactions.)

I have found that people are bent on comparing the SCH healing play style with other mmos where healing tends to be more simplistic; buff, heal, repeat.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

You could play WHM or AST.

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I think you missed the bit in the thread where the OP mentioned (1) she was partnered with an AST and double stacking any job is generally not a good idea and (2) she had no real interest in leveling WHM. :)

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

I think you missed the bit in the thread where the OP mentioned (1) she was partnered with an AST and double stacking any job is generally not a good idea and (2) she had no real interest in leveling WHM. :)

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Well, being a sub-par SCH isn't good either. AST and WHM can double stack just fine. The only class that can't really double stack is SCH.

She can either do that, or learn to control her pet/fairy and spam spam spam because that is how the class works i'm afraid. :(

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Originally Posted by technole

Eos is always fine with AST/WHM and she gets a lot of use in savage to effectively allow you to regen the raid while in cleric. We always have Selene for P1 and swap after split. Still, AST should be able to solo all healing until 0.5. With that being said about a potential gap in DPS they really should be picking up their weight.

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I prefer not to have to switch fairies mid fight.

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I have found that people are bent on comparing the SCH healing play style with other mmos where healing tends to be more simplistic; buff, heal, repeat.

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I prefer that method of healing. I also prefer fights that aren't so heavily predictable. Heavily predictable fights is why the current tank meta even works, for example.

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I think you missed the bit in the thread where the OP mentioned (1) she was partnered with an AST and double stacking any job is generally not a good idea and (2) she had no real interest in leveling WHM.

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Ignore him, he complains more than I do, and that's saying something. I haven't been able to take a thing he says seriously since I first found him on EQ2Flames.

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Well, being a sub-par SCH isn't good either. AST and WHM can double stack just fine. The only class that can't really double stack is SCH.

She can either do that, or learn to control her pet/fairy and spam spam spam because that is how the class works i'm afraid.

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We'd suggested swapping me to WHM(which I'm leveling anyways, much to my chagrin) but a friend of the raid leader's is absolutely adamant that the healer DPS is better if I stay SCH. Yeah, maybe, but the tank not being dead is more important.

I think we're switching the roster up a bit anyways so I'm not sure what's going on. We got a few folks not showing up. -_-

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

I prefer not to have to switch fairies mid fight.

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You can't have that mindset as a SCH in end-game raiding. Everything is situational. The switch is mainly to push DPS in phase 1 as everything is practically double damage for 0.5. Plus you can strategize these situations around eating your fairy for immediate Aetherflow, which also opens a window to re-summon as a different one. You don't have to use Dissipation, and can just swiftcast the change as that is how it's usually done.

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Originally Posted by technole

You can't have that mindset as a SCH in end-game raiding. Everything is situational. The switch is mainly to push DPS in phase 1 as everything is practically double damage for 0.5. Plus you can strategize these situations around eating your fairy for immediate Aetherflow, which also opens a window to re-summon as a different one. You don't have to use Dissipation, and can just swiftcast the change as that is how it's usually done.

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I hang on to Swiftcast for dear life because it's inevitable that I have to rez someone.

You wont be able to heal with that mindset, its like tanks who keep defensive cds and dps who keep cds, if it helps swiftcast. Otherwise start with eos.

Get your analysis done. Either you die of missing heals, dps or mechanic.Looking at the text i assume you die of too little heals, ast can certainly soloheal this, so your co healer has to get better or you stop dps and dps get better, tanks can pull more dmg too obv. Compare yourself/look clearvideos to learn more

Ps: my secret tip for eos is using sic before busters and obey after cds, its less optimal but farrrrr easier than macro and more reliable.

I've already cut my losses at this point.

And I already know my dps need to step up. That's... Special in its own right(one guys trying to lay the blame on one other guy, contradictory reports on damage dealt, draaaaama).
I'll figure something out. Haven't gotten to heal raid yet since. PC issue and had to tank Tuesday.

Yeah use swiftcast when you feel you would need it, not just for raises. It's not gonna be there if the same person or someone else dies moments later, for example. I've had to DS+SC+Cure II lots of times, or SC+Medica, etc.

After playing a WHM and an AST for a bit its funny to think how useful Swiftcast+Cure II is as a save tactic. You never use it a on a Scholar, because 95% of the time you have access to Lustrate.