Powerleveling ruined my day

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Sorry, but Yoshi-P has said since 1.18 that he doesn't want there to be a long pointless grind so that people can play actual content with friends. These threads need to stop.

It's not broken, it's exactly what the devs intended or else it wouldn't be possible. Mid-level content is there for players who like a slow leveling experience. So that those people don't feel they need to rush to 50.

If being 50 as quick as possible is what everyone would choose to do, then it means that the majority of players feel there is no sense of accomplishment in a slow leveling process, only an annoyance in the delay of actual content. I'd rather see the leveling process stay the way it is so the devs can focus on actual content like the primal battles and more complex raids.

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See I couldn't disagree more. If SE is OK with this, it's like they're saying, "Yeah half our game's broken, and we wont' fix it so just try to get to 50 ASAP. That's where the fun stuff is."

Might as well make us all 50 and be done with it.

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Originally Posted by Denmo

>implying that having someone kill mobs for you and you get all the reward isn't cowardly and doesn't sound a lot like cheating.

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I loled pretty hard

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Originally Posted by FireHero

I laugh at all this because this the funnest thing i heard EVER!
For a start look at the market for gear under rank 50 that is not dated and useless.
Find any i think not!
Dose it effect anyone else? No cause there are plenty of mobs all over the game!
Just look at the server i play on for a start there not a single other player out there when i go to level ever!
You say i should party with people my level! Well try find some on Melmond they ether speak a different language or don't exists
Look at everyone i ever talked to on the game already 50 and want to do high level things so wont help me!
So not only do i have no 1 to play with am stuck because i cant buy gear to use and since patch my ARC cant do damage for poo so i cant do anything at all!
All my friends that play the game are level 50 so i cant do what they want cause am not high another and there for i become a downer cause its going take to long for me to level normally

No I wont power level myself and it will take me for ever to level. For other people tho who want to enjoy the game THERE way why not let them!

And if you dont like people PLing then why not go play a offline RPG you can level up all you like and no 1 will take your mobs! lol
People enjoy the game different ways so let them it really dose not hurt you!

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Before 1.19 i grouped with pugs maybe once every few weeks. Chat in uldah was basicly dead. Now ever since 1.19 came out i've pugged at least twice a day and chat is constantly spammed with groups looking for more in all level ranges. Not everyone wants to power lever or can't if they do want to.
This was the first patch that actually gave some life to this game and if power leveling gave some a reason to play again just let them.

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Originally Posted by viion

I'm on a bit of both, but for personal reasons.

I dont like instant-50 or PLing because it would ruin a core feature of a site I Run

On the other hand

Levelling is a pointless feature to a game and is a massive roadblock to the casual player where as its nothing to those who can have 4-5 friends playing 24/7.

How can you make both happy?

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As one of the casual players, I think it would have been better to give the player a choice when they made their character, either:

1) To elect to play alone through most of the game, being able to level up somewhat quickly and being able to play with only 7 other people of their choosing from their friend's list that can be managed upon request but is otherwise set in stone.
2) To follow the traditional MMO mechanic of the hours upon hours of grinding and grouping up with random people.

I'd be happy with the first option to be honest, so that all the elitists can quit complaining about people PLing others, but so that solo players can be happy moving at their own pace but not have to slave as much due to their own circumstances that prevent them from committing to this game full time. I don't care if I have to be relocated to a different server compared to others - no compromise is too demanding for this to be implemented.

People don't have a problem really with people being pl'd. They have a problem with a bunch of gimp noob high level people who didn't learn to play their class, and who didn't get the guildmarks and gear they might of needed along the way. No one wants to play with a person like that. Even with solo players, if you solo 1-50, you just learned how to play the game solo 1-50, how to keep yourself alive 1-50, and how to solo do dmg to mobs 1-50, you didn't learn how to party in the game, keep others alive, or manage hate. So those people who are getting pl'd lose some of the advantages of learning. People think "i've partied in other mmos" "or i got a 75 in XI", that doesn't mean you can manage hate in this game, and sure as hell doesn't mean you know how to do our higher level content. They sacrifice learning key concepts of the game right off the bat. None of the stuff in XIV is that hard, but if you didn't pick up key concepts in the beginning, what makes you think you'll learn them while there's more pressure on you to do your job?

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Originally Posted by kensredemption

As one of the casual players, I think it would have been better to give the player a choice when they made their character, either:

1) To elect to play alone through most of the game, being able to level up somewhat quickly and being able to play with only 7 other people of their choosing from their friend's list that can be managed upon request but is otherwise set in stone.
2) To follow the traditional MMO mechanic of the hours upon hours of grinding and grouping up with random people.

I'd be happy with the first option to be honest, so that all the elitists can quit complaining about people PLing others, but so that solo players can be happy moving at their own pace but not have to slave as much due to their own circumstances that prevent them from committing to this game full time. I don't care if I have to be relocated to a different server compared to others - no compromise is too demanding for this to be implemented.

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So you basically want power leveling to be soloable?

Power leveling is boring and even though its in the game, I had much more fun last night in an 8 person party, cutting up hippocerfs and amalj'aa. Great exp and materia to boot.

There's got to be some sort of compromise there. I had no idea how I'd handle myself as a LNC when I first made my character. I was just whacking a stabbing things left and right. Now, I've been able to adjust my tactics accordingly to deal the most damage and it works surprisingly efficiently. I've been able to do some 3 star guildleves near Camp Moss (Or something) and I was able to finish it in less than 10 minutes. However, I still don't know how I'd be able to handle myself in an actual party situation because I have little experience partying with people as a DD. I always played a tank before, both in XI and WoW.

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Originally Posted by Lavani

So you basically want power leveling to be soloable?

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Read the second paragraph before you reply again. I don't have all the time in the world to be playing XIV, neither do my friends. They're not exactly like the hardcore MMO elitist gamer that's being mass-produced thanks to the other W-MMOs. Besides, the only reason I had any appeal to XIV in the first place was because I heard it was going to be solo friendly, and in my opinion, that does not include slaving 72 hours a week doing the same thing others who can play the game full-time with a group and be forced to do so by myself.

Haters gonna hate. (on power leveling)