are WHMs hard to come by?

I've been playing WHM more often since SCH Nexus is done, and the margin for error is definitely slimmer on WHM. Not only can the healer afford fewer mistakes, the tank can't afford to slop, either. Once Bene is shot and Swiftcast is used, that's it for panic heals. Combine that with the necessity of actually paying attention to your enmity table once in a while, and it's a very different experience than playing SCH.

Bad tanks are the bane of my WHM game. Bad DPS can be healed if they don't die outright, but bad tanks do things like stop-and-start pulls that cause aggro to go nuts and spread mobs everywhere, making WHM life a lot more difficult.

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Envoyé par Yumi_umi

Imo whm is the healer of duty finder and pugs while sch is the healer of the statics and organised / very functional groups.

Whm can easily heal and compensate bad players due to burst heals while sch can maintain good groups with their shields and sustains.
I guess its just tht since there r a lot of statics and LS farm groups now, a lot of ppl just need a healer who can sustain the party with little effort rather than a healer who can save them from the brink of wiping.

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This makes no sense at all... SCH has a huge advantage in burst healing in the form of Lustrate. Yes, WHM has the ultimate 'oh shit' key with Benediction but that has a 5 minute cooldown. Lustrate can be used 3 times per minute. I honestly have a much easier time healing big pulls with SCH than WHM because you can weave those Lustrates in between your Physick/Adloquium where needed. Not to mention the pet. Eos has some really powerful buffs, plus she helps keep people topped off or helps you heal them back from the brink.

I DF'ed high level roulette with a BLM friend yesterday and got Hullbreaker Isle; for some reason that will probably never make sense to me, our tank just up and left after the first boss. We all sort of looked at each other and shrugged, then slogged through the entire rest of the dungeon and finished it without a tank. It wasn't fast and it wasn't pretty but we got it done. I really don't think I personally could've done it on WHM because a lot of those mobs just hit too damn hard to keep up with when you have a caster tanking almost everything. The damage mitigation made it somewhat manageable, though there were still some close calls.

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Envoyé par Ashkendor

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Pro-tip: Don't take the vit-specced healers seriously

I prefer SCH, though I main a WHM for raid reasons (raid already had a baller-tier SCH; would have been a crime to ask him to switch). In truth, it might be possible to two-SCH all of the raids that are out currently (only on T11 prog ATM, so no clue about T12/13), but the superior Protect and Stoneskin right now seem to be worth my boredom with the job ATM.

That might be the reason behind the lack of WHM that the OP is talking about...the job itself is kind of dull. There's virtually no way to multi-task as a WHM due to cast times, which is why I handle things like callouts and as many raid mechanics as can be handled by a single player in our raid group (I used to get landmines in T8, lol). I push DPS when I can, but due to a lack of things like fairy/Lustrate it's impossible for me to heal at the same time, which still means I'm pretty much just doing one thing at a time (either DPSing or healing, or...Stoneskinning, I guess. lol).

Just my two cents.

According to the census in pre-2.4 2014, WHM outnumber SCH by a decent margin. I think the ratio was three WHM for every two SCH or somewhere in that ballpark.
It's from that fanfest I believe.

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Envoyé par loreleidiangelo

That might be the reason behind the lack of WHM that the OP is talking about...the job itself is kind of dull. There's virtually no way to multi-task as a WHM due to cast times,

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Just want to say that every job are boring when you know the fight perfectly (unless some coil) and (just my opinion) i am more bored playing sch than whm.
About the multytask things, i don't think that's a Sch bonus ... eos and selen are both quiet a sh*** at following orders in time, it is a casual issue for our Sch. In Whm you can both heal and dps in the same time, 7xx hot every 3 seconds isn't to bad and a t8 mine can be handled by a single medica2.

Both Sch and Whm are hard to master, but the real difficulty is to find your pair, healing is a teamwork.

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Envoyé par Thistledown

According to the census in pre-2.4 2014, WHM outnumber SCH by a decent margin. I think the ratio was three WHM for every two SCH or somewhere in that ballpark.
It's from that fanfest I believe.

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This was very true back in 2013 because SCH didn't exist pre-2.0 and there were a lot of WHM carry-overs from 1.0. SCHs are catching up to WHM fast, although we might see a continued slow down (balances out at 50/50) as long as SE continues to design fights that favor having one of each. First Coil didn't help WHM's cause much, as SCH/SCH was a dominant pair in all turns (except turn 2 with that lazy enrage method). The sheer amount of AoE damage seen in Coil 2 and 3 shows SE is trying to play to WHM strengths more than Coil 1 did.

Can't those statistics be skewed? I mean, isn't it based off how many people have that class, not necessarily how many people play that class? I know a lot of people who get classes to 50 just to say they have it at 50, but never play them.

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Envoyé par Roxinova

Can't those statistics be skewed? I mean, isn't it based off how many people have that class, not necessarily how many people play that class? I know a lot of people who get classes to 50 just to say they have it at 50, but never play them.

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But that is true for both classes. A lot of SMN mains also have SCH because it's only a CNJ15 away for them to do so. So if someone were to argue in one's favour, I'd say there were less SCH in play than there are WHM in active play.

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Envoyé par Starkbeaumont

The thing is either you are made to be a healer or not. and while you have WHMs switching to SCHs, you don\\\\'t really see SCHs or other classes switching to WHM. and in the end you see less and less WHMs...

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What are you talking about?
You learn to do it just like anything else. No one is born to do anything.

People probably don\\'t want to play whm because there is a large population of idiots in mmo\\'s who think that the only people who should play mmo\\'s are the people who\\'ve been playing mmo\\'s.

Also, scholar is easier, people are lazy. I find Scholar a bit boring but a lot of people don\\'t. There are a lot of people who are more into the social aspects of the game more than traditional video game / reflex type gameplay. I think scholar suits them better. It\\'s less work.