Cash Shop Announcements from EU Stream

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Originally Posted by SongJoohee

- They will not be selling dungeons, re-iterating "No Pay to Win"

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Please tell me there isn't somebody who legit believed this would ever be a thing...

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

Seriously why did you necro a 5 year old thread....there is enough threads about the cash shop that.

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I honestly didn’t realise that this particular thread was an old one. There was two recent cash shop threads so I thought the link was to the other recent one, so I dun goofed. :(
I guess it says something about how common and unchanging these threads are.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

Seriously why did you necro a 5 year old thread....there is enough threads about the cash shop that.

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Oh noooo whatever will you do, having to ignore one more thread on the OF! This sets you back so much!!!

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Please tell me there isn't somebody who legit believed this would ever be a thing...

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Some other MMOs instead of expansion they sell dungeons individually. Then of course new dungeons also have new drops that are better then the old one. It feels less pay to win then some stuff, but it does separate players who have more income then others.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Please tell me there isn't somebody who legit believed this would ever be a thing...

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The same people who constantly "slippery slope" argument every new change believed this was exactly where the cash shop was going :

"well if they're selling cosmetics now, what is stopping them from selling OTHER content".

Hence why the slippery slope is a bad argument.

there are more minions that are exclusive as bonus code for some physical merch than mogstation exclusive ones. So shouldn't that make the SE store pay 2 win too?
really makes you thonk...

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

The same people who constantly "slippery slope" argument every new change believed this was exactly where the cash shop was going :

"well if they're selling cosmetics now, what is stopping them from selling OTHER content".

Hence why the slippery slope is a bad argument.

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Not really. I think most realize that putting [edit] other [/edit] content or pay 2 win stuff behind a Cash Shop in a subscription MMO is a death sentence. The slippery slope argument is that they stale the base game cosmetics to drive Cash Shop sales. Not saying that's the case right now and it may be a fallacy or whatever but some just don't want this to be a possibility out of principle.

edit: with "content" I meant stuff like instances, not what's currently in the Cash Shop

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Originally Posted by swiss_Momo

there are more minions that are exclusive as bonus code for some physical merch than mogstation exclusive ones. So shouldn't that make the SE store pay 2 win too?
really makes you thonk...

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Like the Tsukuyomi minion that I thought was craftable, or the Shiva emote from ages ago. :(

The one thing I wouldn't mind actually being in the cash shop are replica armors for past savage tiers. Savage content is so time consuming as is that there's not really time to go back and get older armor unless it's ancient, like ARR coil stuff or Alexandrian.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

Not really. I think most realize that putting content or pay 2 win stuff behind a Cash Shop in a subscription MMO is a death sentence. The slippery slope argument is that they stale the base game cosmetics to drive Cash Shop sales. Not saying that's the case right now and it may be a fallacy or whatever but some just don't want this to be a possibility out of principle.

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6 Years, along with becoming THE contender to the king of MMO's... wouldn't really call that a death sentence.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

6 Years, along with becoming THE contender to the king of MMO's... wouldn't really call that a death sentence.

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You don't think there will be massive exodus if FFXIV started presenting obvious pay 2 win items in their Cash Shop? Like you see in Free to play MMOs? That's what I meant, not that the game is already dead because of the cosmetics Cash Shop we have right now.