Increase the Penalty For Those Who Leave After Getting Loot

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Obviously nothing is stopping them, which is why people do it.

So, please tell me. If you wanted a specific glamour piece from the first boss of Hullbreaker Isle, would you get your item from said first boss, and drop immediately after? If so, then that's selfish to the other three people you were partied with, and the reason SE has put a penalty in place to people who do that.

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the difference between st and hullbreaker is that st quite literally has players of all classes and roles just waiting to get in, hullbreaker is a 4-man that might not have as many queueing for it and has less chances for people to come in because they are already past the boss that you want loot from. in last nights run of st, a healer and dps dropped from my alliance for an s rank, they were replace within seconds. i highly doubt that you get that kind of time on hullbreaker, or most any other content.

I loot and run since ST day 1

/flexes

I agree with the suggestion that has been made, to only give won items out if the dungeon was either finished or vote abandoned. I'd personally add vote kick to that list, but, sadly, the people who would do things like leaving after getting their drop, would all too happily just afk to get themselves vote kicked to save a few minutes, so let's keep it at that. If getting kicked could cost them their loot, at least they'll behave.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Oooh, I gotcha. So, in a four man dungeon that's a no-no. But, in Syrcus Tower it's totally acceptable. Got it. No double standards there.

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I haven't said anything is right or wrong. You're just assuming I am because I'm disagreeing with you. Fact is, It doesn't matter what I, or you, think is right or wrong. People are going to do what they're going to do.

There is no honor code. Everyone is paying $15 a month to log in. If they deem their playtime too valuable to stay in ST after getting their loot, then they can leave. Sure, it sucks for the people trying for oil, but asking SE to severly punish them for it is just silly.

ST isn't the only way to get oil, either. You have T7, Hunts, and ST for that. If you're getting undesired results via one method, why not try another instead of blaming your losses of the inconsiderate nature of MMO players in an anonymous setting? They owe you nothing.

Oh, I'm not disputing that fact at all. People will always do whatever they want to do, whether it is noble or selfish. I'm just giving you my opinion on the whole matter. Personally, I haven't been in many ST's where people do this. But, trying to make this a noble deed is too amusing to me to not respond.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

I agree with the suggestion that has been made, to only give won items out if the dungeon was either finished or vote abandoned. I'd personally add vote kick to that list, but, sadly, the people who would do things like leaving after getting their drop, would all too happily just afk to get themselves vote kicked to save a few minutes, so let's keep it at that. If getting kicked could cost them their loot, at least they'll behave.

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So people who join in progress because the loot they are looking for is 3 or 4 bosses in should not be allowed to join either, since they didn't contribute to the rest of the dungeon being accomplished?

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Oh, I'm not disputing that fact at all. People will always do whatever they want to do, whether it is noble or selfish. I'm just giving you my opinion on the whole matter. Personally, I haven't been in many ST's where people do this. But, trying to make this a noble deed is too amusing to me to not respond.

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There's nothing noble about it. There's nothing malicious about it either, though.

The OP asking for a 4 hour deserter penalty is just absurd.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Actually his/her analogy is completely related. This is a multi-player video game in which completing something is based on everyone's contribution, not ditching out when you feel like it. Just like football.

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Hmm...It isn't. Bad analogy is bad.

People in CT are quickly replaced when someone leaves it happens often every run and its not a big deal. The game offers you little incentive to stay and spend more of your time once you get your loot in CT because you are limited to 1 item per week. However people leaving isn't a problem cause the DF finds a replacement almost right away. By leaving once you got your item it just frees up room for someone else who wants something to get in faster.

CT is the definition of drop in drop out whenever you want casual type of content. If you want strict lotting rules and doing stuff for the benefit of the group then run CT with a FC as a party or use the alliance feature that they just added. The whole reason they added the alliance feature was so large groups could play together.

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Originally Posted by Raxion

There's nothing noble about it. There's nothing malicious about it either, though.

The OP asking for a 4 hour deserter penalty is just absurd.

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LOL, well I also never said I agreed with a 4-hour penalty.