Over 240 maps and no blue bird.

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Originally Posted by XenoSamurai

It's not stupid just because I don't have one, it's stupid because I work on getting it for almost 5 months and don't get it yet other people get it right away or get more than one over and over, it should be equal for everyone, RNG should be balanced.

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But that IS what you're saying, you just don't want to admit it or don't realize it. RNG IS equal for everyone, the problem is you think the equality should be in GETTING the item, that's not what makes it equal, that would make it not rare. The equality is in the chance to get it. Every single map of that kind has the same chance to drop it.

As others have said, what you want is to not have RNG, but at that point you'd have to make some things extraordinarily difficult to obtain, but even then, the items would be far less rare then bluebird is. And it's important to have these rare items.

hmmm... sometimes I wonder why there are ppl who's relating MMO with online gambling games. There are gambling mini-games found within a game, but Gold Saucer hasn't been released yet. :p

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Originally Posted by ispano

But that IS what you're saying, you just don't want to admit it or don't realize it. RNG IS equal for everyone, the problem is you think the equality should be in GETTING the item, that's not what makes it equal, that would make it not rare. The equality is in the chance to get it. Every single map of that kind has the same chance to drop it.

As others have said, what you want is to not have RNG, but at that point you'd have to make some things extraordinarily difficult to obtain, but even then, the items would be far less rare then bluebird is. And it's important to have these rare items.

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Can we let this rest? I've already seen the errors of what I said, I understand the importance of RNG it's just annoying when the RNG gods pick people that will be forever unlucky. I was just venting about it.

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Originally Posted by XenoSamurai

I don't mind items being rare but this is ridiculous, almost 5 months of farming the maps and not one bird? I've never worked so hard for a Vanity item in any mmo, it's just getting stupid.

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Then you haven't played many MMOs with extremely low drop rate items. It took me 7 years to get a mount that I wanted in another MMO and that was from grinding the dungeon it dropped in an average of 6 times a day. Let me let you guys in on a little secret, it's not unfair. Unfair would be the drop rate being changed to accommodate people who don't know the difference between unfair and unlucky.

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Originally Posted by Baneus

Then you haven't played many MMOs with extremely low drop rate items. It took me 7 years to get a mount that I wanted in another MMO and that was from grinding the dungeon it dropped in an average of 6 times a day. Let me let you guys in on a little secret, it's not unfair. Unfair would be the drop rate being changed to accommodate people who don't know the difference between unfair and unlucky.

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You grinded the same dungeon 6 times a day for 7 years for a mount and didn't give up? That's just insane, what game was that?

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Originally Posted by XenoSamurai

You grinded the same dungeon 6 times a day for 7 years for a mount and didn't give up? That's just insane, what game was that?

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WoW. An average of 6 times a day. Some days I didn't hit it at all, some days I hit the 5 dungeon per hour limit several times. In the end I gave up. I transferred to another server to help a friend out with his lowbies and it dropped. RNG >:(

I've been doing maps with my FC every weekends. My bluebird drop this weekend:)

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Originally Posted by Alukah

@KaiKatzchen Say 150 maps cost the same as a bluebird minion, if doing the maps yourself means you will get it within 150 maps I'd agree with you, but it's not the case.

150 maps, do them yourself for a chance to the the minion.
150 maps, sell them and have a guaranteed chance to buy it from the market (unless they added an RNG to the marketboard).

Note again that this isn't a general suggestion, some people still like gambling and well, someone has to put those minions in the marketboard, but in OP's case, having wasted so many maps, I think it's time to consider a second option.

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But is it truly a pure waste? If the maps were bluebird or nothing I'd agree. But you get gil and other items that can be used or sold, I've made more off the items I got off the map than what I would have got for the map.

But as you said some people like to gamble and/or earn it themselves. Nothing wrong with that. :)

Friend and I got 3 in the last 30 days

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Originally Posted by Baneus

...Let me let you guys in on a little secret, it's not unfair. Unfair would be the drop rate being changed to accommodate people who don't know the difference between unfair and unlucky.

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This!

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Originally Posted by XenoSamurai

...it's just getting stupid.

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If you choose to farm a super rare item, please do not come to the forums and complain about the super low droprate.
THAT'S stupid.
It is RNG. Deal with it or stop farming.