From Mog to you: Darkhold full clear, 4 chests, 20 minutes remaining.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

would be 35 groups total. with probably a lot of said groups in the same LS

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Likely. Hell, BG's already selling runs on our server, so I imagine some of those numbers are fluffed with people buying runs, or joining an LS run, some successful pugs, etc.

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Originally Posted by Belial

That was 280 people, not linkshells. Sorry, not gripin' at ya, just making your point more valid.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

would be 35 groups total. with probably a lot of said groups in the same LS

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Wow lol...

So ya, it must be really easy with the ranged setup..

We took an extra 3-4 people, one at a time, from our shell that weren't in our static.

So we took 11-12, not 8.

Agreed, its probably a few shells bringing others through.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

so why put mobs in any dungeon ever if they werent meant to be killed

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Hmmm. I thought they put mobs in dungeons to try and kill you. Nevertheless, who cares about semantics. If you get all the stuff from a dungeon and still skipped trash mobs, then you did an even better job!

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

im sure you can see why im hating it though
and im sure im not alone in this

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You've got to be kidding? Upset that others don't do it your way? How about you enjoy how you do it and let others enjoy their way. Who's to say which one is the "right way".

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Originally Posted by Belial

What do you expect? You're saying stuff like this:

Says who? The only people claiming it to be "easy mode" are those failing to provide any evidence of completion. Meanwhile, all of the decent linkshells are respectful enough to post information they have in regards to the instance. So if you're gonna run into someone's helpful topic to condescend to them about how "this is easy mode" and "youre using this set-up" etc, etc, then yea... you're gonna met with equal aggression. /shrug.

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Says pple on the forums JP and NA, and also my own experience when i embarrassed myself a couple times when i tried to make a setup like that and was hinted if i was even capable of running this dungeon with that mindset. At first i thought it was limited to just a few on the forums maybe but then stumbled ingame to a particular group of initial dungeon members picking at the idea. I noticed the idea (about easy) was not so limited when it happened a second time with another group)

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Originally Posted by Belial

^ That's a very important piece to your response. With topics like these, people can go in having an understanding. Coming into someone's topic just to bust their chops about a set-up, when they're providing information for people, makes you a troll...

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Having an understanding does not equal jumping on any post that does not praise and admire you. You need to understand that part. A discussion is something where each side throws in ideas but also be able to catch the others and contemplate on theirs too. Not just throw, and swat the incoming if it doesnt suit your tastes.

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Originally Posted by Deceptistar

Says pple on the forums JP and NA, and also my own experience when i embarrassed myself a couple times when i tried to make a setup like that and was hinted if i was even capable of running this dungeon with that mindset. At first i thought it was limited to just a few on the forums maybe but then stumbled ingame to a particular group of initial dungeon members picking at the idea. I noticed the idea (about easy) was not so limited when it happened a second time with another group)

Having an understanding does not equal jumping on any post that does not praise and admire you. You need to understand that part. A discussion is something where each side throws in ideas but also be able to catch the others and contemplate on theirs too. Not just throw, and swat the incoming if it doesnt suit your tastes.

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You're taking certain things out of context here. It's fine if you provide some constructive criticism, but again, jumping into a thread claiming things are easy, or shouldn't be done that way, without any information to support the theory/idea/etc, it provides no discussion whatsoever, just a baseless comment. It's only bickering and nonsense.

You're agruing with me about something I'm not even commenting about, so I'm unsure why you are even mentioning some of this stuff. I don't care if people praise or condemn, so long as it's constructive.

Also, I know very well what a discussion is, and making that statement goes against what you were saying in your previous post (see; snide remarks). So if you want to take a walk down this road, I'd be more than happy to start dictating definitions to you as well, seeing as how you missed responding to any of my valid points.

Video of a full mele run coming in a few days. No archers, 1-2 CONs,

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Originally Posted by Belial

Likely. Hell, BG's already selling runs on our server, so I imagine some of those numbers are fluffed with people buying runs, or joining an LS run, some successful pugs, etc.

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They do? Haven't seen that yet lol.

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Originally Posted by Petori

They do? Haven't seen that yet lol.

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Full Dzemael Darkhold clear: +7,000,000
Any gear of your choice: +1,000,000 per item

シャウト失礼しますが、だれかダンジョンのクエできたこと必要あったら、「スーパーメガデラックス・ダンジョン・フルクリア・サビス」を７百万ギル売りますよ！テルお願いします（＊’－’）

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sup cuties.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

Video of a full mele run coming in a few days. No archers, 1-2 CONs,

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poor archers, though I think it is a good idea to have at least one Archer. I think the setup no one can complain about is GLD, PUG, LNC, MRD, ARC, THM, CON, CON. That way you can say everyone is helpful.