Changing Titan Ex Echo

The solution is to buff the drops/rewards for doing this fight. The vast majority of people who have cleared titan ex won't ever do it again since 2.2. Most other challenging content doesn't have that problem. Hell at least you get glamour gear in CT. I miss doing Ultima as well. That was a fun fight. Echo will never make up for the loss of experienced players not doing the fight.

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Originally Posted by CYoung187

The solution is to buff the drops/rewards for doing this fight. The vast majority of people who have cleared titan ex won't ever do it again since 2.2. Most other challenging content doesn't have that problem. Hell at least you get glamour gear in CT. I miss doing Ultima as well. That was a fun fight. Echo will never make up for the loss of experienced players not doing the fight.

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One of the big mistakes (in my view) that the last patch did was making Ex primals technically obsolete. Sure, the weekly weapon reward is still relevant, but it's not something to long for at this point.

These primals still pose a challenge to i90+ players yet it's irrelevant content for most of the people with experience running them which, as you said, makes it harder for everyone else as well. The Atma quest should've been linked to the primals (e.g. by allowing to trade Rowena's tokens for atma pieces); instead, the only relevant primal became Leviathan and as well done as the fight is, it just gets old at this point. Heck, include a Leviathan kill in the weekly quest to make it harder, I don't care. Just make them relevant.

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Originally Posted by peaches

bomb thingys

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I actually said the first Ultima Weapon fight :\

Echo for this fight is worthless as is, and will continue to be useless for movement- and mechanic-driven content like this. Meaning, things like coil t5 and anything harder than it, as well as any other sort of fight where doing damage more quickly than expected can actually be a detriment.

I've only ever managed to beat this fight twice. Both times, it was by groups that didn't quite beat it in one shot but still did not need Echo to win. Every group that managed to slog their way to 25% Echo (assuming the entire group actually stayed to that point) still kept doing just as badly as they were at the start of the fight.

The moment Echo starts actively changing mechanics is the moment I permanently unsub.

Or SE can just make it to where it is no longer required as of 2.3. Thank you devs! :P

sounds a lot like they didn't want to face the problem for now but I'll take it. Definitively a step in the right direction