[Interview] Zodiak weapons, Philo removal, 3.0 and more

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Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly

Ahahah, God that Philos thing makes me anxious in unexpected ways. I know I can cap pre-patch, but I don't know what items to spend existing tomes on to make my life a bit easier in 2.2

Potash? Ore? ): -cry-

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Yup im in the same boat. Have been stockpiling some of each (Peacock, Animal Fat, Potash, Coke) but i'm worried they will be useless in terms of 3star Master Book Items. Which will most likely require a whole new subset of crafting materials purchasable using Myth.

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Originally Posted by Hayward

I'd like to know why your type cares SO much about being better than everyone else in a video game--in fact, this borders on obsession. In your minds, it seems like no one else should be allowed to enjoy this or any other MMO.

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I don't think it is so much about being better but more about success. Some people just don't have patience to try to assist someone who may be struggling and just want to go in a dungeon and get it done with no mess or fuss. /shrug

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Originally Posted by LordSaviour

your sig gives me nightmares. ;(

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I-I'm so sorry. oTL <333

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Originally Posted by PROBOUND

Yup im in the same boat. Have been stockpiling some of each (Peacock, Animal Fat, Potash, Coke) but i'm worried they will be useless in terms of 3star Master Book Items. Which will most likely require a whole new subset of crafting materials purchasable using Myth.

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You know I was wondering about that. Certainly there are existing 3 star items I'd like from the existing mats, and I thought maybe I'd like a Vanya robe so I got enough potash for one. But now I'm not sure if I want to get animal fat for a vanity piece or if I want to keep purchasing blood to make ethers and what not.

I guess we'll have to wait until the 21st to hear if they say anything about it in the live letter! Until then I'll just cram my pockets with blood and potash.

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Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly

Ahahah, God that Philos thing makes me anxious in unexpected ways. I know I can cap pre-patch, but I don't know what items to spend existing tomes on to make my life a bit easier in 2.2

Potash? Ore? ): -cry-

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my wife saw me reading the forums last night and she saw your sig over my shoulder. I then had to have a talk with her about internet forums and the sense of humor behind GIFs. She didn't understand and was visibly disturbed.

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Originally Posted by Alipoprocks

I don't think it is so much about being better but more about success. Some people just don't have patience to try to assist someone who may be struggling and just want to go in a dungeon and get it done with no mess or fuss. /shrug

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Success wouldn't be nearly as much a concern as the posts on this thread. What these posters seem to want is something that a HIGH number of players--80-90% would be my guess--would see as nigh impossible to complete (think 30,000 Alexandrites), all in the name of lording their "accomplishment" over everyone on their server. Wanting content that excludes such a number of people simply for the enjoyment of seeing others not have what you have is about as close to obsession as I can think of.

I think a 4 philo to 1 myth is a good ratio, based on how they are distributed. most dungeons were 100 to 30, and ct is 200 to 50. so it would make sense.

a buck for a retainer isn't bad, its what I spent on mules in xi, and they have been talking about the ability to add more for cash for a year. As long as the first two remain free, there shouldn't be too much drama, I hope.

mentioning the zodiac weapons is confusing at best and concerning at worst: They did just say that the leviathan weapons were supposed to be the best. While I expect them to be replaced eventually with something better, I would have thought they would have at least released them for a few months before releasing info on the next best thing?

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

I kinda highly doubt this, considering they had the same views about BCoB and dedicated players blew their expectations out of the water.

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I have a feeling that is will be quest related patch to patch. And that the first set of requirements won't be completed by the time 2.25 comes. I think that whats Yoshi is meaning and planning... could be wrong. I think everyone, right now, is thinking the whole quest line to get a Zodiac weapon will be released at once. That probably is not the case.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

Here's the thing that confuses me though.

According to that interview (or the translation of that interview) iLvl will go

Dungeons: i70 (Darklight)
CT: i80 (same as now...I believe)
Coil: i90 (Same as now)

No mention of increased iLvl, unless they just didn't mention it because that would be redundant.

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I think they are just talking about changes to what we have now. He is given anything away about the new 2.2 content. Live letter is in 2 more days.

They never said leviathan weapons would be the best. Yoshi P said they would be very powerful and if they follow the current model it will be on par or better than the current weapons from twin. The next best weapons will be in turns 6-9 and the zodiak weapons should be better than those but require a long grind to obtain.

Hopefully the zodiak quests are not based on an rng system or that people can sell clears or drops.

In what ways can they make Zodiak weapons take longer?

Possible ways to make this take longer:
Requires several items bought with new tomes, thus taking weeks to finish due to caps
Requires some tokens from a weekly quest
Requires a crafted weapon with over melds.
Requires random drops from new coil taking weeks to finish due to lockouts
Requires random drops from dungeons.
Requires daily items from daily quests which you must do daily to finish.
Requires a certain amount of EX primal kills.

I think it would be awesome if you had to at least clear up to turn 8 to upgrade relics. We need more prestige in this game. Everyone at 50 can have everything at ilvl 90 with primal weapons inside of a month or so. I believe in accessibility, but we also must reward the more dedicated players.

More time + more effort should equal greater rewards.