Also consider this: These new dungeons will be the ONLY source of the new tome. Before, myth tomes were available though many different dungeon difficulties. This means the fresh 50 WILL queue for these new dungeons. And who can blame them? Square has clearly set it up so fresh 50s can instantly start gaining the new tome, in my eyes.
New dungeons confirmed i55?
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03-08-2014, 01:48 AMSessurea
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03-08-2014, 01:48 AMDoo
Better gear doesn't = better skills but it's true most of the time the person with the better gear will play better than the one with the not so good gear. Then again, this game just hands good gear to anyone so it's harder to tell.
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03-08-2014, 01:52 AMDoctorPepperIt also means that you can use party finder and not have to worry about solo queing in duty roulette though. They also said that people will be able to que up for duty roulette in a party some time in the near future so that will further solve the problem. Party finder will become the new norm and duty finder que times will continue to increase if people can't que up and get some guarantee of success. I like a challenge but in my opinion a challenge doesn't mean carrying somebody through something then losing anyways, so I will be sticking to party finder and FC members for the most part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessurea
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03-08-2014, 01:53 AMBlazeruhh...Quote:
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03-08-2014, 01:56 AMSessurea
Funny thing is, people take offense to this attack on the ilvl requirement, but its out of care for the general state of the game that I say these things. I left an mmo and started ff one month ago, I don't wanna leave another one so soon.
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03-08-2014, 02:06 AMMusashidon
experience doesn't = skill
experience is knowing the bomb rotations in titan or that you should feed slimes to cad in t1
skill - being able to dodge landslide or be able to healer properly
ilvl has no effect on skill nor does doing wp, ak or ct 100 times having skill is based solely on the player a player will only get better if they so choose to.
now on to my point you can not blame ilvl for a players lack of skill if they can't dodge something if they can't get their rotation down if they can't do these things it is not the games fault it's the players, course does that mean we should shun them and tell them to get better before they are allowed to do the conten. you can force players to do an easy dungeon like wp for philos and myths and get i70 and i90 gear but that will not make them any more useful in content.
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03-08-2014, 02:10 AMDooExperience = skilled gainedQuote:
Originally Posted by Musashidon
Being able to dodge ls and plumes = gained through experience.
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03-08-2014, 02:14 AMMusashidonskill gained? not at all it doesn't require skill to see that titan drops bombs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doo
point two proves my point how is someone supose to get better at titan if he has to have experience to even do it? they don't so they do it and get better.
you beat tougher fights due to skill not experience i can do titan 100 times but if i don't have the skill i can't beat it = not expience but skill.
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03-08-2014, 02:22 AMDooFirstQuote:
Originally Posted by Musashidon
Get good enough gear to eat moutain buster if you're tank and be able to soak up good dmg so put less stress on the healers.
Get good enough dd gear so you can break the the heart if you're dd.
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03-08-2014, 02:25 AML-D-Omlette
This fresh 50 fear is unwarranted.
Assuming you're implying 1st class/job, then items are i55 body, i50 Head, Hands, Legs, Feet. Even if they load up their right side it will likely be ~i45ish. And for s&g I'll assume i55 weapon, since you can get that from GC. That means you have overall iLvL of 48.75. Even cranking the right side with all i50 only gets you i50-i51. Throw in the new i55 hunting log ring and you might bump to i52.
If you're not implying 1st class/job, then they would likely already be familiar with some of the other runs.
People aren't going to finish main story and auto-magically queue up for these new HM as soon as they are done.