Best in Slot for SMN after 2.1?

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Originally Posted by Icehunter

report/sample logs? :D

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What can I provide as far as sample logs are concerned? Is there a way to dump the raw logs that FFXIV-APP used to calculate accuracy percentages, and send that to you? Basically, all anyone needs to do is run Turn 5 as SMN with ~430 accuracy. The parser will report back 100% garuda accuracy, where ACT and Logrep2 both report the misses.

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Originally Posted by PriyaJugulataris

Was this necessary? At all? I mean the first sentence is alright, but everything else makes you kind of seem like a jackass.

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First of all. I am a jackass. Secondly I have come to respect Torin for his contributions to the community and should hope he knows its a good natured ribbing so relax.

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Originally Posted by T0rin

You can opt to not be BiS by 1/3 of a point of INT, and still use the horn. You don't have to be perfect! :P

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But I wanna be perfect... :p Well... with 2.2 and Vanity Slot.. I'll get my horn back mwahahaha !

Just a quick question : if you have all the BIS except the allagan legs and the weapon... are the summoner legs worth it while waiting for RNG to drop those legs ?

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Originally Posted by Icehunter

report/sample logs? :D

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I don't have it sadly. But if I do i will send it to you <3

I won’t lie, the only reason I know I’ll never go with that bis list is because myth pants + allagan boots = breezy summer capris on a male character.

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Originally Posted by Shamirah

But I wanna be perfect... :p Well... with 2.2 and Vanity Slot.. I'll get my horn back mwahahaha !

Just a quick question : if you have all the BIS except the allagan legs and the weapon... are the summoner legs worth it while waiting for RNG to drop those legs ?

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Well, for the new BiS list.. Myth legs are better now because we gain more from Allagan gloves than we lose by using Myth pants. Basically, replace Horn with Circlet, swap out Myth gloves and Allagan pants for Allagan gloves, Myth pants and either Myth belt or Allagan ring. Make sure to read my updated post on the previous page, I added a lot of stuff. :P

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Originally Posted by horaiyo

I won’t lie, the only reason I know I’ll never go with that bis list is because myth pants + allagan boots = breezy summer capris on a male character.

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LOL, it's true. The BiS set is going to be so ugly. Vanity can't come soon enough.

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Originally Posted by T0rin

Well, for the new BiS list..

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Pretty sure it's not BiS.

How did you run tests for this? It's impossible for parsers to see crits on dots, which is the majority of our damage. Crit also holds a lot more weight for our pet than DET does, and the pet is a big chunk of our damage as well.

I agree with 99% of the ideas you have, but gonna have to go ahead and say you're wrong on this one.

Crit is more important for SMN, even if it's just our class in particular. At almost any given moment we could simultaneously have 7+ chances of a crit proc; from DoT tics, pet attack, ruin, fester, our auto-attacks... it's a lot more important for us than what it would be on BLM.

Oh yeah, didn't even factor in the spell-speed proc off the pet crits....

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Originally Posted by xxalucard

I agree with 99% of the ideas you have, but gonna have to go ahead and say you're wrong on this one.

Crit is more important for SMN, even if it's just our class in particular. At almost any given moment we could simultaneously have 7+ chances of a crit proc; from DoT tics, pet attack, ruin, fester, our auto-attacks... it's a lot more important for us than what it would be on BLM.

Oh yeah, didn't even factor in the spell-speed proc off the pet crits....

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Not again. Crit has a diminishing return on gear and sure while its nice to have its still just a chance where as Det never loses its value and scales better. Now with all that being said the difference in dps is ~1 so if you prefer crit all the power to you but he has posted links to his discovery.

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Originally Posted by Ragnirok

Not again. Crit has a diminishing return on gear and sure while its nice to have its still just a chance where as Det never loses its value and scales better. Now with all that being said the difference in dps is ~1 so if you prefer crit all the power to you but he has posted links to his discovery.

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The dps gain from just a handful of crit spell speed procs will already do more than 1 DPS.

I prefer crit for more damage, but if you prefer less damage and not taking advantage of a trait specifically given to your class for crits, then all the more power to you.

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Originally Posted by xxalucard

The dps gain from just a handful of crit spell speed procs will already do more than 1 DPS.

I prefer crit for more damage, but if you prefer less damage and not taking advantage of a trait specifically given to your class for crits, then all the more power to you.

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With his new best in slot you lose MAYBE 6% crit. Seems like a lot right but like i said its just a chance. So you lose a 1% chance to proc that trait that you live and die by. (0.06x0.2=0.012). So you wouldn't trade that chance for increased damage on ALL of your abilities ALL the time. I might add that spell speed is our worst stat by far because it doesn't affect 4 of our damaging abilities

Not this shit again. Can we just ignore him this time please?

Also all hail Torin, savior of pantless summoners all over the world.