The problem with allowing Turn 2 Rage strat

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Originally Posted by Bankai305

Its not an exploit, its bad design. Enrage means if you don't kill it within the allotted time you lose.

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I'm so sick of this statement. SE employees kill you when they want to kill you. Primals and Twin come to mind; they know how to make a wipe you enrage and they did not do it for this.

"Oops! We forgot to make it wipe people!" If they wanted it to one-shot, it would already.

Edit: Ty for the info, Camate.

And sadly, I will now never have the chance to legitimately kill ADS.

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Originally Posted by Finuve

I can't fathom why people want this changed. The fact that this was figured out is fantastic

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Yeah...except you could clear it far faster the normal way ;p

Speed run WP and lockout mobs
Speed run Garuda by ignoring plumes
Speed run Praetorium

Speed running ignoring all sorts, just to make it easier, but what about non speed stuff?

Joining turn 1 being on the snake and skipping ADS, how many has done that? bet OP has, skipped an entire boss for phat lootz.

So many of you are hypocrites, this no different, using mechanics to make things easier to get loots. Guarantee OP did one of the above, or still does, and there are many other examples.

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Originally Posted by C-croft

Don't worry the Dark Devices FATE was not an exploit. But they broke it. :-P

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Truth. And funnier still they claimed that the DD "adjustment" was an accident and yet it hasn't been fixed yet. Strange! Moot point these days I guess, but still. :p

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Originally Posted by Ashira

They might have what it takes to beat Turn 2 using this cheap method, but Turn 3 will certainly stop them in their tracks..

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Wow, Turn 3... I hate its final boss.
It will definitely stop any bad guy who did T2 with 0 click method.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

The development team is aware of the strategy that is being used for the Binding Coil of Bahamut Turn 2 against ADS and they do not consider it to be an exploit. There are currently no plans to make any adjustments.

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I remember back then when Devs said farming DD waves wasn't an exploit and yet ended up being ninja nerfed.

So... If you guys are just too bad to kill him legit, do the enrage strat while you still can. I honestly expect it to be ninja nerfed at some point anytime "soon".

I honestly couldn't care less about a ninja nerf. Because 1, our group isnt bad enough to use such cheap tactic and 2, even if we were bad, we wouldn't do an enrage run because... we have some pride y'know.

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

I remember back then when Devs said farming DD waves wasn't an exploit and yet ended up being ninja nerfed.

So... If you guys are just too bad to kill him legit, do the enrage strat while you still can. I honestly expect it to be ninja nerfed at some point anytime "soon".

I honestly couldn't care less about a ninja nerf. Because 1, our group isnt bad enough to use such cheap tactic and 2, even if we were bad, we wouldn't do an enrage run because... we have some pride y'know.

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Do you kill all the mobs in Turn 3, or are you too bad to? The answer is that there is no reason to. That is the same answer for the question, "should people have to do T2 the 'normal' way as you see fit?" Some people do it this way, some people don't. Guess what... a lot of the people who do it this way can do it the "normal" way, too, but they don't feel like it and there is no reason to. If it gets "fixed" people are still going to be clearing it. So, for now, the people complaining about enrage can rest on your laurels way up on that imaginary pedestal and realize killing T2 "normally" isn't even anything to be proud of.

You can't even sound elitist very well, but i'll give you a generous 4/10.

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Originally Posted by Finuve

I can't fathom why people want this changed. The fact that this was figured out is fantastic and as long as it is left alone means player ingenuity is celebrated as opposed to being crushed.

Multiple solutions is the right way to go.

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It's not fantastic, it's putting a bunch of awful players who aren't competent enough to complete T2 into T4, where they're even less competent.

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Originally Posted by BrandoH

It's not fantastic, it's putting a bunch of awful players who aren't competent enough to complete T2 into T4, where they're even less competent.

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And this even matters because.....?