To all those ANTI loot lockout people I say this.

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Originally Posted by Naelle

I'm working on my 5th job and manage pretty alright. There's plenty to do inside the game besides raiding coil and soon to be ct. It's the players that refuse to do anything else that are complaining about nothing to do. Smert, right?

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Exactly what else is there to do? Because I don't see anything to do besides leveling other classes (which you won't be able to play/gear up due the lockouts, so it's redundant) and running the same two dungeons for the 100th time.

I am amazed people can say "there's plenty to do" when there's barely two dungeons, a "raid" you can do once a week and can clear in one hour and three battlefields (primals), crafting is basically pointless right now and making gil is more of the same because gil serves no purpose outisde repairs.

Please, enlighten us, what else is there to do besides running the same dungeons over and over with no reward or purpose after you're capped? As it stands right now, the game gives you about 2-3 hours of gameplay a week.

I can seriously not believe that there are actually people defending these lockouts.

Baffles my mind.

These also cause cliques to form in FCs due to having to static up for everything...can't help other FC members through coil, and now due to the way CT works you will still only be going through that with your static and 16 strangers...can't even experience that raid with a full fc group...I guess its good afyer the primary run with our statics we can atleast go back and help the others in the fc through...

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Originally Posted by Elazu

I can seriously not believe that there are actually people defending these lockouts.

Baffles my mind.

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Play any other mmo, then come back to us. If anything you should be happy these lockouts go by each turn for coil. If you downed the first boss in any other game and took a break, your group very much could have cleared teh rest without you and you would come back only to see the dungeon empty.

Seriously it baffles MY mind that you guys think these lockouts are that ridiculous...

the thing is baddies are still strugling with primals , for baddies it take ages to clear the actual content and just think for themselves .
ye , their is "plenty things" to do when it take u 2 month to clear one turn or one dungeon.
but no , i m sorry , their is nothing to do when u have already cleared the actuel game content , and it's not that hard , even easy when each players understand the mechanic with teamwork.
I m amazed when i see the servers progress , only few of us have cleared t4 and t5 . and the only reason is because they are undergeared , and that's because they can't farm i90 gear and have to wait weeks and weeks.

and stop thinking about yourself with the poor excuse : play another mmo .

everyone here are paying a monthly fee to be entertained , and it's because they care about this game they are still here.

The game needs to limit the rate of growth. They say:
What is the maximum amount of growth possible: G
What is the least amount of time we want them to spend to get it: T
What is the rate of growth: G/T.
They can limit rate of growth in many ways. One obvious way is to put a hard cap on how many times we can go per week, or how much 'tomes' we can make per week. The other is how many hours of repetition (i.e., RNG/Grind) does it take to obtain a specific amount of growth.

We can choose our limiter. The amount of hours we sink, or the amount of 'tomes/repeats' we are allowed to do. In other words: Would you rather be limited to 1 Coil Run per week, or be allowed to do 100/week but the drop rate decreased to 1% of its present drop rate?
Because being able to do it more often per week with the same drop rate is not an option. Perhaps when iLvl150 gear is out they may remove the restriction on Coil (as it will be a moot point anyways).

But honestly, the issue is NOT the loot lock out, the issue is NOT the caps/growth limits. The issue is one of the main areas of interest in the game is accumulation of equipment. This is a self-defeating goal. There needs to be other key areas of interest in the game that we would all enjoy spending time doing.

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Originally Posted by Asiaine

But honestly, the issue is NOT the loot lock out, the issue is NOT the caps/growth limits. The issue is one of the main areas of interest in the game is accumulation of equipment. This is a self-defeating goal. There needs to be other key areas of interest in the game that we would all enjoy spending time doing.

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if i rephrase u also think that lockouts are an issue with the actual state of this game ^^'.

get over yourself op. this game is built around multiple people and multiple play styles. just because some people are more skilled and dedicated to their hobby than you are isn't a bad thing.

when you start paying my bills and my game fee you can tell me what, when, and how i can enjoy playing a game. in fact, even then you can get over yourself.

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Originally Posted by yamface

Play any other mmo, then come back to us. If anything you should be happy these lockouts go by each turn for coil. If you downed the first boss in any other game and took a break, your group very much could have cleared teh rest without you and you would come back only to see the dungeon empty.

Seriously it baffles MY mind that you guys think these lockouts are that ridiculous...

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Then my group would help me clear it...

If the lockouts were done right and were by class instead of character, people wouldn't be THAT offended. Still...people who want to play more are locked out, taking away the reason to log in. And don't start with "b-but there's SO MUCH to do!", you all know this is bs.

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Originally Posted by Elazu

Then my group would help me clear it...

If the lockouts were done right and were by class instead of character, people wouldn't be THAT offended. Still...people who want to play more are locked out, taking away the reason to log in. And don't start with "b-but there's SO MUCH to do!", you all know this is bs.

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I wouldn't be against class lockouts, but theres so many people who think there should be NO lockout whatsoever.