It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

Other players would be imposed upon.

How we choose to glam is how we choose to express ourselves. That shouldn't be something you can just turn off because you don't like seeing a hrothgar in a dress or something. For some people, being able to choose how the appear and present themselves is important. This system, even if they don't see it on the other end, is removing that expression and all that comes with it. You are removing my choice on how my character appears and is presented to you.

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Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown

Other players would be imposed upon.

How we choose to glam is how we choose to express ourselves. That shouldn't be something you can just turn off because you don't like seeing a hrothgar in a dress or something. For some people, being able to choose how the appear and present themselves is important. This system, even if they don't see it on the other end, is removing that expression and all that comes with it. You are removing my choice on how my character appears and is presented to you.

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So instead, you want to impose your appearance on my gaze and leave me no choice but to see your expression. And no, I actually don't have a choice but to see it in a cutscene. In doing so, you have completely removed my choice even though if OP's option was implemented, your choices would still not have been removed.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

So instead, you want to impose your appearance on my gaze and leave me no choice but to see your expression. And no, I actually don't have a choice but to see it in a cutscene.

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Lol what cutscenes? The dungeon cutscenes that are few and far between and only viewed once?

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

So instead, you want to impose your appearance on my gaze and leave me no choice but to see your expression. And no, I actually don't have a choice but to see it in a cutscene. In doing so, you have completely removed my choice even though if OP's option was implemented, your choices would still not have been removed.

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When it comes to someoe's right to express themselves vs someone getting offended by that expression, I'll side with the person trying to express themselves every time. Freedom of speech is a thihng, freedom to like what everyone expresses is not. You don't have to like every glam you see. I certainly don't. But so what? It's not like someone's bad glam is reaching through the game to hurt you. Are you that thin skinned you have to ask the devs to let you block it out?

This is at worst blocking out peoples expression and at best, an unnecessary burden to an already understaffed dev team.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

One choice adds options/choices to the game and the other prevents it.

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More importantly, one option costs development dollars that have to provide some amount of monetary return while the other option is the current state of things, which doesn't require any funding.

Since I haven't seen anyone unsubscribe because of the lack of the option, my bet is they'll continue with the current state of things.

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Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown

When it comes to someoe's right to express themselves vs someone getting offended by that expression, I'll side with the person trying to express themselves every time. Freedom of speech is a thihng, freedom to like what everyone expresses is not. You don't have to like every glam you see. I certainly don't. But so what? It's not like someone's bad glam is reaching through the game to hurt you. Are you that thin skinned you have to ask the devs to let you block it out?

This is at worst blocking out peoples expression and at best, an unnecessary burden to an already understaffed dev team.

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To me, you are blocking out people's freedom of choice in a game they choose to pay to play. Your freedom is speech is not infringed upon whatsoever. I'll suppose you will say if I don't buy someone's book I am infringing on their freedom of speech because I am blocking out their expression? No, they have no idea I didn't buy their book.

Forcing me to consume your self-expression is the anti-freedom option.

Imagine being so intolerant of other people in an MMO that you want control over the glamour choices of others.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

The toggle would not affect you.

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At this point it's starting to get funny how you lot conveniently completely ignore screenshots and streams. It does affect us if someone displays our characters in a way we didn't choose. It would be especially concerning if removing glams resulted in revealing a sexy outfit, because some combat gear does qualify as that, and a creep could take uncompromising screenshots of it, and then upload them to a public domain.

And I'm sure you will continue to ignore it because it puts a hole in your "it only affects the end user" argument.

Not to mention the slippery slope this is. What next? An option to remove certain hairstyles from view? Certain races? Certain minions? Mounts? Emotes? Housing skins? Furniture?

I generally dislike how dark lipstick looks in this game. Should I ask SE for a make-up free version of every face in the game?

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Originally Posted by Penthea

At this point it's starting to get funny how you lot conveniently completely ignore screenshots and streams. It does affect us if someone displays our characters in a way we didn't choose. It would be especially concerning if removing glams resulted in revealing a sexy outfit, because some combat gear does qualify as that, and a creep could take uncompromising screenshots of it, and then upload them to a public domain.

And I'm sure you will continue to ignore it because it puts a hole in your "it only affects the end user" argument.

Not to mention the slippery slope this is. What next? An option to remove certain hairstyles from view? Certain races? Certain minions? Mounts? Emotes? Housing skins? Furniture?

I generally dislike how dark lipstick looks in this game. Should I ask SE for a make-up free version of every face in the game?

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I ignored it because it would be such a ridiculously rare occurrence. Also, it is not a 'sexy outfit' glam I would advocate for. I don't care if people are dressed in the warrior AF as suggested earlier. I'm not advocating for this so that you'll be put into a miniskirt. No avatar on here is that special.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

To me, you are blocking out people's freedom of choice in a game they choose to pay to play. Your freedom is speech is not infringed upon whatsoever. I'll suppose you will say if I don't buy someone's book I am infringing on their freedom of speech because I am blocking out their expression? No, they have no idea I didn't buy their book.

Forcing me to consume your self-expression is the anti-freedom option.

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There is no such thing as a 'freedom of liking everyone's outfit.' You don't have to like what everyone expresses but asking for the ability to mute it because you can't handle it is crazy, and an unnecessary burden on the dev team to make it work. If someone in a two second dungeon cutscene has an outfit you don't like, tough. Deal with it rather than trying to bury your head in the and and pretending its not there.