Compromise: Just Charge $5 For Now. Once 2.0 is Out, Then Charge $12

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10-26-2011, 06:35 AM
TheVedis

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Originally Posted by stoned

they wont listen to reason they will continue to ingore anyone oped to their pay or leave method. they will troll and derail this tread till it gets locked.

game not worth paying for. its not beta its just obsolete and wont be here come 2.0

ok lets disect this

they wont listen to reason they will continue to ingore anyone oped to their pay or leave method
arent you doing this and insulting anyone who doesnt want to leave with you?

they will troll and derail this tread till it gets locked.
like you are doing now? they are more on topic then you are

game not worth paying for. its not beta its just obsolete and wont be here come 2.0
then seriously, why the hell are you still here? what do you care? arent you supposedely a warcraft advocate now who just bought a year sub over there so you can get free diablo(which btw is a major activition ploy used when they know a games sales are declining so they can make a quick cash infusion, they have done it with several other franchises)
10-26-2011, 06:39 AM
stoned

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Originally Posted by AmyRae

For a guy who once said this has nothing to do with 2.0, you sure like to focus on that a lot.

I'm pretty sure we've answered this already, but I'll make it crystal clear.

I can only assume the "price elasticity" calculations were already performed for when 1.0 launched last year. If 2.0 is the way FFXIV should have launched, then they've already determined the right price for it: $12.99 / month. Everyone who bought FFXIV was willing to pay that if FFXIV launched the way it should have, and once it does launch the way it should have, I see no reason why that sentiment would not continue.

If those at SE want to reconsider what they'll charge for 2.0, that's up to them but we're not calling for it. However, given the state of the product they're trying to sell now, I'd suggest they may want to reconsider it now.

There's evidence to suggest that a price reduction would keep more players. I don't have proof that they could make more money by lowering the price. But there are principles in economics that show such a possibility exists and it should be investigated. I don't have the resources to make that determination with certainty, but the ones making the pitch do. That's all we've ever asked for here: that they take a look at the possibilities.

the only fact is... if they wait till 2.0 they keep everyone. if they dont some will leave.. so everyone argueing over this dumb debate that has already been determined who won outside of this small forum group, is just arguing over nothing and debating for the sake to argue. more people quit than those who still play, those who quit out weigh this group 100 to 1. but those voices go unheard, but SE still feels the pain of knowing this game was/is broken. anywho thinks 1 thousand people can keep a mmo stable is out of their mind.
10-26-2011, 06:40 AM
stoned

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

ok lets disect this

they wont listen to reason they will continue to ingore anyone oped to their pay or leave method
arent you doing this and insulting anyone who doesnt want to leave with you?

they will troll and derail this tread till it gets locked.
like you are doing now? they are more on topic then you are

game not worth paying for. its not beta its just obsolete and wont be here come 2.0
then seriously, why the hell are you still here? what do you care? arent you supposedely a warcraft advocate now who just bought a year sub over there so you can get free diablo(which btw is a major activition ploy used when they know a games sales are declining so they can make a quick cash infusion, they have done it with several other franchises)

no its basicly their argument if you dont want to pay leave if not shut up... i wont be silenced
10-26-2011, 06:41 AM
stoned

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[then seriously, why the hell are you still here? what do you care?

point proven....
10-26-2011, 06:41 AM
TheVedis

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Originally Posted by stoned

no its basicly their argument if you dont want to pay leave if not shut up... i wont be silenced

same as they wont be silenced

all you are doing at this point is being childish and stubborn and going out of your way to piss other people in these forums off

at this point, with you specificaly and what youve stated, why are you here? seriously?

you obviously dont enjoy the game
you dont want to pay for it
you want to play wow(you said you got a year sub after all)

so why arent you on wows forums discussing the game you do like instead of on these forums dictating to other people what they should think about the game they obviously enjoy?
10-26-2011, 06:46 AM
AmyRae

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

ok lets disect this

they wont listen to reason they will continue to ingore anyone oped to their pay or leave method
arent you doing this and insulting anyone who doesnt want to leave with you?

they will troll and derail this tread till it gets locked.
like you are doing now? they are more on topic then you are

game not worth paying for. its not beta its just obsolete and wont be here come 2.0
then seriously, why the hell are you still here? what do you care? arent you supposedely a warcraft advocate now who just bought a year sub over there so you can get free diablo(which btw is a major activition ploy used when they know a games sales are declining so they can make a quick cash infusion, they have done it with several other franchises)

There is a third rail that hasn't been heard from much that doesn't want to see any charges for FFXIV right now. To me, that only makes sense if SE didn't need the money, because obviously you'd want to preserve as great a player base as possible.

But, I'm fairly certain the hat-in-hand is a sign some revenue needs to be generated to stay afloat. That's why we're asking for an adjusted price that makes sense, not a free ride.
10-26-2011, 06:50 AM
stoned

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

same as they wont be silenced

all you are doing at this point is being childish and stubborn and going out of your way to piss other people in these forums off

at this point, with you specificaly and what youve stated, why are you here? seriously?

you obviously dont enjoy the game
you dont want to pay for it
you want to play wow(you said you got a year sub after all)

so why arent you on wows forums discussing the game you do like instead of on these forums dictating to other people what they should think about the game they obviously enjoy?

lol you just keep making my point for me.. because you don't like what i have to say i should leave.

i don't enjoy the game
i ALREADY PAID for it.
its not worth a sub in its currant state.
i am playing wow I am posting between my arena queue.

if you enjoy the game so much why are you trolling these forums?
10-26-2011, 08:28 AM
Wynn

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Originally Posted by stoned

no its basicly their argument if you dont want to pay leave if not shut up... i wont be silenced

You will once we go 30 days past sub day.
10-26-2011, 08:31 AM
Starlord

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Originally Posted by Wynn

You will once we go 30 days past sub day.

I think they are going to do maintenance, where only payed subs are able to post here
10-26-2011, 09:51 AM
JackDaniels

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Originally Posted by Starlord

I think they are going to do maintenance, where only payed subs are able to post here

Which is really important to sensitive people like Wynn, \o/

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