[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

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Originally Posted by DrForester

Just because you hate diversity does not mean someone from a minority group got a job because there's some diversity cabal.

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Originally Posted by DrForester

just because a company is working with a company that advises on diversity

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Case in point.

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Originally Posted by LilithRose

No conspiracies here. Sweet Baby Inc. is a DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) consultancy group. Their CEO also gives speeches at the GDC (Game Developers Conference) to teach other developers and consultancy groups to use Scare/Intimidation tactics to get their changes implemented. How exactly is still debated, though there are people from the industry stepping forward as whistleblowers currently.

Now I recognize this is just one such group. But this group in particular, Does have Square Enix under their clientele.
So this is possibly relevant.

Especially when your "sensitivity reader" and "game writer" for "diversity, equity, and inclusion" apparently loves talking racist shit on twitter, and how they want to abort jews off the planet.

So we have the fact that Square Enix are clients of Sweet Baby Inc. People clearly are noticing something's off about this character, or you wouldn't hear people chiming in here. Upto page 63 no less. You're free to have your own opinions, and I didn't state anything definitive. But this does look like a red flag to me if you tally in Sena Bryer's activism history on Twitter.

Where, if you read what she says. By her very own logic, she should step down.

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Originally Posted by LilithRose

Small update here, since Square Enix made a deal with Microsoft.

To shorten my Microsoft message a little, you can still read back the original. Whilst Microsoft themselves say they do not mandate these changes. We've had 2 developers coming out to describe the sweeping changes they've inside their companies after partnering up with Microsoft.

• Hiring of a DEI director
• Hiring of consulting firm to gender balance and review hiring/promotion policies.
• Hiring of Sweet Baby Inc. to work on the published games.

This last bit seems to sort out, as Sweet Baby Inc. has Square Enix in their client list. Making it seem like like people's suspicion of nepotism for our voice actor could have been the result of the gender balancing.

Read more about this journalistic uncovery Here

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Whilst you keep using terms like woke, and a cabal, etc... (I think you called it; Giving yourself away here) I'm just showing the news, sources, and how it might explain our current situation here.

Completely on topic here.

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Originally Posted by Karious

THIS IS A TOPIC ABOUT BAD VOICE ACTING.

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Originally Posted by LilithRose

Small update here, since Square Enix made a deal with Microsoft.

Since the market has found out about the "DEI" (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) scam, where it's more like forced inclusivity. It seems after their meetup at the GDC (Games Developer Convention), they're trying to change the language to not get caught, again.

So we have new examples like DEIB, the B standing for Belonging. And Microsoft creating a new 'framework' on how to keep inserting "DEI" practises.
https://i.imgur.com/qN583Se.jpeg
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Clearly they didn't like a lot of the consumers realizing it was 'forced' representation. So after the GDC, they added new term they now chose to describe their inclusion with 'intentionality.'
https://i.imgur.com/HjLfQBB.png
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These changes are intentional alright, but far from organic. Whilst they claim they do not mandate these guidelines. But instead, they'll make sweeping changes at the studio they partner with.

• Hiring of a DEI director
• Hiring of consulting firm to gender balance and review hiring/promotion policies.
• Hiring of Sweet Baby Inc. to work on the published games.

This last bit seems to sort out, as Sweet Baby Inc. has Square Enix in their client list. And this voice actor was likely the result of a 'gender balance.'

Read more about this journalistic uncovery Here
and proof pictures of how they've race swapped characters.

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Originally Posted by Karious

Lilith's posts are on topic, she's not spreading propaganda simply because you disagree with the message.

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I think she was referring to this, as I was too.

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Originally Posted by LilithRose

This last bit seems to sort out, as Sweet Baby Inc. has Square Enix in their client list. And this voice actor was likely the result of a 'gender balance.'

Read more about this journalistic uncovery Here

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So yes, completely on topic.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

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Have I ever told you I love your tinkerbell gif?

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Originally Posted by Karious

Lilith's posts are on topic, she's not spreading propaganda simply because you disagree with the message.

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Is it, though? It just looks like propaganda for the sake of spreading intolerance to me and has nothing to do with Sena's voice acting work. I just checked out Sweet Baby's website and FFXIV is not listed there as one of their "projects." Alan Wake 2, God of War Ragnarok and Spiderman 2 are, though (as well as "that game" that made Sweet Baby infamous in the first place, though it was really because of a Streisand effect). I doubt they have control over who SE can hire for voice acting.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Is it, though? It just looks like propaganda for the sake of spreading intolerance to me and has nothing to do with Sena's voice acting work. I just checked out Sweet Baby's website and FFXIV is not listed there as one of their "projects." Alan Wake 2, God of War Ragnarok and Spiderman 2 are, though (as well as "that game" that made Sweet Baby infamous in the first place, though it was really because of a Streisand effect). I doubt they have control over who SE can hire for voice acting.

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They most likely don't. They're a consultancy firm whose job is to make sure you don't accidentally do a bigotry in your game. That's literally it. Chuds are acting like SBI are literally Satan and and singlehandedly responsible for some games being bad. It would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

They most likely don't. They're a consultancy firm whose job is to make sure you don't accidentally do a bigotry in your game. That's literally it. Chuds are acting like SBI are literally Satan and and singlehandedly responsible for some games being bad. It would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

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This is false and their own management publicly spoke about how they do more than this.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

This is false and their own management publicly spoke about how they do more than this.

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Care to provide a source on that? I dunno who their management staff is, so I'm not gonna try and wade through the rage-bait propaganda nonsense out in the wild.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Is it, though? It just looks like propaganda for the sake of spreading intolerance to me and has nothing to do with Sena's voice acting work. I just checked out Sweet Baby's website and FFXIV is not listed there as one of their "projects." Alan Wake 2, God of War Ragnarok and Spiderman 2 are, though (as well as "that game" that made Sweet Baby infamous in the first place, though it was really because of a Streisand effect). I doubt they have control over who SE can hire for voice acting.

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Then you might want to read better. None of what I said has anything to do with intolerance. But from the recent scandals that broke about this, it certainly looks like it 'COULD' have caused this. They're clearly talking about using Intimidation tactics you should do with the marketing team to get your way. That doesn't sound like pure 'consultancy' to me. That talk I linked, is from the CEO of Sweet Baby Inc, miss Kim Belair herself

Now if you kept up, you know Square did show off in their recent stream that they partnered up with Microsoft/Xbox. (Unless that kind of news is also propaganda?) And that journalist showed, that Microsoft requires the hiring of a DEI consultancy group/Sweet Baby inc. And sure enough, Square Enix is in SBI's their client list. So so far, it's on track following the logic.

Sweet Baby Inc mostly lists the games they've worked with/on from the start. However there are plenty more unlisted projects where their writers are listed in the credits. Nor are they the only consultancy group out there. But it IS the one that's been caught publically boasting about using intimidation tactics. Hence it's relevance.

Now never once did I state this as definitive. But when you have so many red flags, there is at least a likelyhood. That's all I'm stating.

Because many have found it odd that an English studio, went out of their way to hire an north American, to do a South American accent.

And many have also rightfully pointed out that by Sena Bryer's own logic which she has openly expressed on twitter. That she's doing something she's highly against herself. If she thinks woman aren't allowed to voice trans characters, then why is she voicing a woman's voice?

Now mind you, I personally don't have anything against that. Acting per definition, is pretending to be a different person after all. Nothing wrong if they do it well. And not once in this thread have I stated the fault to lay with her, but rather the hiring company itself.