Dear Healers who don't DPS

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

I'm not sure how we got from my post to talking about someone threatening to stand in AoEs. I didn't say that there weren't people being unreasonable on either side; I specifically agreed with a previous point that there was a lack of reasonable arguments in favor of able, experienced healers using their full kits appropriately.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Quite honestly, it makes me want to stand in said AOE, to get hurt as much as possible if the healers I'm grouped with only want to heal. Why should I work harder if they are not willing to as well?

So please, the developers made it easier so we don't have to stance dance anymore as healers. Please, don't be lazy, and always be casting something.

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Literally the thread starter.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Literally the thread starter.

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Irrelevant to my point.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

Irrelevant to my point.

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Hey man, this is 60 pages long now.

It's not like anyone cares about relevance at this point.

My thoughts are simple, it was alright to not DPS in 2.0 and 3.0, clerics was buggy and a lot of times trying to DPS just ended up making pulls a disaster. Stormblood though a healer can go into a "just keep casting" mentality, if there is no need to heal just tab to a mob and start casting. Its really easy to just stop the cast and go into emergency heals if things go bad now, no having to wait on clerics cooldown or risk it not dropping when you need it to.

I main white mage, and although I also play scholar its just not a great healer in my opinion and has far less options when it comes to handling different situations. Its DPS can easily draw aetherflow that could be used for healing abilities and such so at least for that job I can see some argument to being a bit conservative. Astro I have been leveling but I just don't like the job in general so not going to make any notes on it.

Still no healer should need to just stand around unless their low on mana.

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Originally Posted by era1Ne

Is it an reasonable argument to say "i'll stand in every aoe to force new healers to heal more, if they don't want to dps?" No, it is not.

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You're talking about an entirely different thing. Me and Cynfael were pointing out there are no reasonable arguments for why healers shouldn't be DPSing, while there clearly are reasonable arguments for why they should. The phrase in your quote is not an argument for anything. What you're saying, I guess, is that there are people who behave unreasonably on both sides of the argument. But that's an entirely different thing.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Literally the thread starter.

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Way to take a single sentence and completely miss the point and context of the entire OP.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Way to take a single sentence and completely miss the point and context of the entire OP.

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What, that all "Dear X that don't-" threads are largely pointless venting?

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

What, that all "Dear X that don't-" threads are largely pointless venting?

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I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I'm not sure that venting pointlessly about said pointless venting is adding value to the discussion.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I'm not sure that venting pointlessly about said pointless venting is adding value to the discussion.

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It's not like this thread had anything of value to add in the first place.

I think everyone here knows that healers who refuse to DPS, even when they have a clear opportunity to are being anything other than a bad healer.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I'm not sure that venting pointlessly about said pointless venting is adding value to the discussion.

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Pointlessception?