Please add damage meters, Yoshi P.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Sure thing mutt

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On another note...

so when you gonna pop the question? She isn't gonna wait forever.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

I gave a source, you have yet to counter it. Do continue to howl like a dog though

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You've never sourced anything in your life lol.

God this is turning into one of those mock trial videos on youtube with the overacted characters.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

You've never sourced anything in your life lol.

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Again, you may try to prove me wrong instead of impotently flailing. Here's something small for you to start on, and if you can prove it wrong then I will never post of this forum again; there is no valid excuse to not pull your weight in a dungeon

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Originally Posted by Tyjacon

I'm sure the devs, who are responsible to ensure that all content can be cleared by every party configuration including raids, are using some program to accomplish this.
You think they use an excel spreadsheet ?
That's literally their job, and they need the tools to accomplish it. Not only raids, as you're implying, but all battle content.

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So you think yoshi p doesn't play the game himself and raids as well?

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Originally Posted by raelgun

So you think yoshi p doesn't play the game himself and raids as well?

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Where did I say he doesn't play his own game? He does.
He's even been known to PVP and gank other players.
Please stop putting words in my mouth, they taste bad.

Here's a thought: What if these logs only showed YOUR performance (your damage/healing/damage taken/abilities used/etc) and you could choose to share them in the moment, but otherwise they're gone forever when you leave the duty?

One of the issues with this whole thread is we keep arguing in absolutes, but we can surely bring this hypothetical into a situation that most people could approve of?

This way, no one else can see if you're doing more or less than everyone else (outside of the means that are already in the game) and can't attempt to harass anyone else over things. It'd in theory be purely for self-evaluation.

WoW is ---> that way. If damage meters for other people (you can parse your own as it is, if you want) is important to you, that game allows all the calling out you want. It's also a toxic cesspool of people who spend their time telling others how to play, rather than playing themselves.

For FFXIV, we don't need that kind of thing at all. The devs agree, and I hope it stays that way.

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

Here's a thought: What if these logs only showed YOUR performance (your damage/healing/damage taken/abilities used/etc) and you could choose to share them in the moment, but otherwise they're gone forever when you leave the duty?

One of the issues with this whole thread is we keep arguing in absolutes, but we can surely bring this hypothetical into a situation that most people could approve of?

This way, no one else can see if you're doing more or less than everyone else (outside of the means that are already in the game) and can't attempt to harass anyone else over things. It'd in theory be purely for self-evaluation.

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Without a point of reference 'your' numbers are pointless. What good would it be to know you did (lets say) 5,000 dps without knowing 5000 out of what, 5,000, 10,000, 50,000?
And if your 'log' includes the raids actions and buff alignments, the numbers you'd get would be skewed anyway.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Again, you may try to prove me wrong instead of impotently flailing. Here's something small for you to start on, and if you can prove it wrong then I will never post of this forum again; there is no valid excuse to not pull your weight in a dungeon

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Dude...I can practically solo a dungeon on my undergeared warrior. Who the hell cares if a new player isn't playing "perfectly"