LGBT Linkshell and Free Company Directory

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Originally Posted by cainejw

I have joined non-LGBT guilds many times. I enjoyed playing with them, and I know there's no real malice in their words. However, every single day I've been in the guilds, I've had to hear "I just died, that's so gay" or "No homo" or even "Don't be a fag." After a while, these things get tiring. I joke back with, "I wasn't aware dying had a sexuality" or "No homo? You're so masculine, secure, and heterosexual right now." However, doing that every single time is tiring. According to you, I should be shut up and let this happen because we're all one big, happy family of humans. However, rarely have I ever heard, "I just died, that's so straight" or "No hetero."

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LMAO!!! You are seriously offended by that? That's just guys being guys.
Here, i have some spare thick skin you can borrow.

Stop feeding the trolls and they will starve.

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Originally Posted by avecha

LMAO!!! You are seriously offended by that? That's just guys being guys.
Here, i have some spare thick skin you can borrow.

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I think you have "guys being guys" confused with "bigots being bigots." Guys are not bigoted by their very nature, and I'd appreciate you not presenting that as the case.

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Originally Posted by avecha

LMAO!!! You are seriously offended by that? That's just guys being guys.
Here, i have some spare thick skin you can borrow.

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It's good to have a thick skin but minorities shouldn't be *required* to grin and bear it all the time. It's great if you can brush that stuff off, but it's even better if you have the option not to see people compare your group to shit if you don't want to see that. Even if they intend it as a joke.

Should a person of a racial minority just let it slide if they see people saying racist things every day?

Any LGBT Linkshell in Coeurl recruiting ?(:

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Originally Posted by Kendall_Lawliet

Feel free to add an additional Sargatanas based LGBT linkshell to the directory <3 . Thanks!

Safe Haven - http://safehaven.guildwork.com/recruitment

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Aw man, and I just left Sargatanas to join Balmung! I would've loved to be in an LGBT linkshell.

Anyone interested in starting one on Balmung?

Seek Gay LS or FC (gay men :D), name is Icey Sapphire on Balmung

Any EU LS on Excalibur? Interested in joining one.

No gay guilds or friendly ones on Exodus server?

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Originally Posted by cainejw

I think you have "guys being guys" confused with "bigots being bigots." Guys are not bigoted by their very nature, and I'd appreciate you not presenting that as the case.

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My best friend is gay, and he has no issues when I say stuff like "Thats Gay". So...

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Originally Posted by SynMaris

My best friend is gay, and he has no issues when I say stuff like "Thats Gay". So...

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LOL! The good ole' 'But, I have a friend who is X, I can't be Y!!' trick.

TL;DR Not everyone is your 'best friend'. So...

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Originally Posted by SynMaris

My best friend is gay, and he has no issues when I say stuff like "Thats Gay". So...

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A group/community/world/universe(?) is not made of besties only, though ;)

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Originally Posted by Nuinn

A group/community/world/universe(?) is not made of besties only, though ;)

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It's still something silly to get worked up over. I don't get mad when gays say things like "Breeders" or "Straights" its a silly thing to get worked up over. Thick skin people, thick skin.

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Originally Posted by SynMaris

It's still something silly to get worked up over. I don't get mad when gays say things like "Breeders" or "Straights" its a silly thing to get worked up over. Thick skin people, thick skin.

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You do realize what you're saying is the equivalent of a racist saying 'well, I have a black friend that doesn't mind me saying n*****s, why should YOU get upset?'

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Originally Posted by Amyas

You do realize what you're saying is the equivalent of a racist saying 'well, I have a black friend that doesn't mind me saying n*****s, why should YOU get upset?'

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I don't mind myself saying it, I'm black, and I use it as a term of endearment.
If its not being used in a blatantly racist way I have no issues with it. My friends use it, my family use it, all as a term of endearment "You're my n***a"
Anyway I feel I have made my point. Carry on :D

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Originally Posted by SynMaris

It's still something silly to get worked up over. I don't get mad when gays say things like "Breeders" or "Straights" its a silly thing to get worked up over. Thick skin people, thick skin.

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Others may not have a thick skin, especially if it's a community (talking about ARR one, in particular) where there's minors. I dunno.... just think it's very selfish and lazy to expect someone to have thick skin cause someone else can't refrain from using a word, or saying something in a different way.

Thing is, which I don't think many get, that for some it really is as annoying or offensive as using the "N" word. Sure, I don't mind absolute political incorrectness. On the contrary, I enjoy it, among a group of friends, or otherwise trusted people.... but even then I try not to go over the top /shrug.

("Breeders" is too disturbing, unless it's used in a SCI-FI movie or something o___O;;; though that's just my 2¢)

I feel like it's too many "me" and not enough "us" in general with such situations.

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Originally Posted by SynMaris

My best friend is gay, and he has no issues when I say stuff like "Thats Gay". So...

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Congratulations on having a friend? Just a word of advice, though? We don't like being carted out as representatives of the whole minority. We also don't really enjoy being an example of how you're so tolerant.

Are there any gay guilds or guilds that like gay people on Exodus server?

It looks like the main page isn't being updated anymore...last edit was in September. :(

Can't hurt to hawk again, I suppose. :cool:

Zodiac Braves: LGBT-friendly FC on Lamia - http://zodiacbraveslamia.shivtr.com/

I guess my Dust Bunny will have to keep me company for now.

I seriously don't understand all the need for stand alone LGBT FCs. Even after all the discussion here from both sides it still does not make sense to me. I have never had LGBT friend in any mmo, guess this thread explains why -_-.

Maybe try us out, :( . Your sexuality does not matter one bit, heck I have not heard the word "f*g, gay" in a long time, usually it is "f***ing c**t, piece of sh** Twintania".

LF 1 PLD behmoth na server for coil, 8:30 pm est starting Monday after reset.

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

I seriously don't understand all the need for stand alone LGBT FCs. Even after all the discussion here from both sides it still does not make sense to me. I have never had LGBT friend in any mmo, guess this thread explains why -_-.

Maybe try us out, :( . Your sexuality does not matter one bit, heck I have not heard the word "f*g, gay" in a long time.

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I imagine it's just a safe place catered for those groups of people. I personally don't find it a big deal unless they exclude straight people, which doesn't seem likely at all. If silly things like one's gender matter to people, you bet your boots one's sexual orientation matters as well.

Let's be honest, there are a lot that treat males and females differently in games like this. It's really not very much different than how some view straight and gay/bi so yeah, it matters. Maybe not to you, but lot of weird folks out there.

I also hear those same terms near daily. Lol

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Originally Posted by Nuinn

Others may not have a thick skin, especially if it's a community (talking about ARR one, in particular) where there's minors. I dunno.... just think it's very selfish and lazy to expect someone to have thick skin cause someone else can't refrain from using a word, or saying something in a different way.

Thing is, which I don't think many get, that for some it really is as annoying or offensive as using the "N" word. Sure, I don't mind absolute political incorrectness. On the contrary, I enjoy it, among a group of friends, or otherwise trusted people.... but even then I try not to go over the top /shrug.

("Breeders" is too disturbing, unless it's used in a SCI-FI movie or something o___O;;; though that's just my 2¢)

I feel like it's too many "me" and not enough "us" in general with such situations.

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Minors shouldn't be playing this game.

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Originally Posted by SynMaris

I don't mind myself saying it, I'm black, and I use it as a term of endearment.
If its not being used in a blatantly racist way I have no issues with it. My friends use it, my family use it, all as a term of endearment "You're my n***a"
Anyway I feel I have made my point. Carry on :D

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The world does not revolve around you. I may like eating cuploads of shit, but because I do so does not mean that everyone else should be fine doing so as well.

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Originally Posted by avecha

Minors shouldn't be playing this game.

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Well, this is a teen rated game, so...

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Originally Posted by Aerostein

I imagine it's just a safe place catered for those groups of people. I personally don't find it a big deal unless they exclude straight people, which doesn't seem likely at all. If silly things like one's gender matter to people, you bet your boots one's sexual orientation matters as well.

Let's be honest, there are a lot that treat males and females differently in games like this. It's really not very much different than how some view straight and gay/bi so yeah, it matters. Maybe not to you, but lot of weird folks out there.

I also hear those same terms near daily. Lol

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Nah it is not a big deal humans are free to do whatever they want so long no harm is done. Just such a shame that I never got to know any LGBT, heck I can't go shout LF LGBT FRIENDS, you meet people, they are either nice or not, regardless of one sexuality.

On the other hand, this thread did give me a bad vibe, I mean "LF friendly LGBT FC or LF FC that likes LGBT" makes it sound that FCs have a problem with LGBT and only few don't. I have been in 4 FCs in this game and never heard anyone even mention LGBT or enquire if anyone is actually LGBT.

If people want to be in full LGBT FC that is up to them, but every other FC that does not advertise about being LGBT friendly is not actually an enemy of LGBT....they just don't care if someone is straight or LGBT.

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

I have never had LGBT friend in any mmo, guess this thread explains why -_-.

Maybe try us out, :( . Your sexuality does not matter one bit, heck I have not heard the word "f*g, gay" in a long time, usually it is "f***ing c**t, piece of sh** Twintania".

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Being part of a minority tends to make you more perceptive of the inequalities of being that minority. In this case, being LGBT typically means you're the subject of ridicule, insult, and degradation for simply existing with the target always being sexuality.

Also, you've had an LGBT friend in an MMO. You just probably didn't know it. They probably chose not to disclose their sexuality to you or to your guild. I cannot speak to others, but I've chosen to stay "in the closet" in guilds because it's just easier than having to constantly deal with being "the gay guildie."

On the flip side, some LGBT guilds, shells, etc can be really...liberal with their expressions of sexuality, and an LGBT space allows that without having to conflict with personal beliefs of non-LGBT persons. It's both proactive and reactive in nature.

If there is a linkshell on lich please could someone leave a post to tell me. Also if there is anyone that would like to see a lgbt linkshell on lich please also leave a message

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Originally Posted by cainejw

Being part of a minority tends to make you more perceptive of the inequalities of being that minority. In this case, being LGBT typically means you're the subject of ridicule, insult, and degradation for simply existing with the target always being sexuality.

Also, you've had an LGBT friend in an MMO. You just probably didn't know it. They probably chose not to disclose their sexuality to you or to your guild. I cannot speak to others, but I've chosen to stay "in the closet" in guilds because it's just easier than having to constantly deal with being "the gay guildie."

On the flip side, some LGBT guilds, shells, etc can be really...liberal with their expressions of sexuality, and an LGBT space allows that without having to conflict with personal beliefs of non-LGBT persons. It's both proactive and reactive in nature.

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I see, I think I do understand now :).

AWW yeah we need one in exodus!! :P

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

I see, I think I do understand now :).

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To add onto Cainejw's good post, the "safespace" term can be a very important flag for a lot of people. Many individuals, in the LGBT community especially though it's certainly not unique to them, come from extremely traumatic backgrounds and are looking for a place from which they can take comfort and understanding without fear of someone triggering fears, memories, or other demons in their life. It is very much an emotional and therapeutic support group, as it is a place to hang out with like-minded and friendly allied folk.

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Originally Posted by nibble1984

If there is a linkshell on lich please could someone leave a post to tell me. Also if there is anyone that would like to see a lgbt linkshell on lich please also leave a message

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Send me a tell ingame character name Cerin Gloom if you are interested in forming or know of an existing lgbt linkshell on Lich.

I don't care who you are as long as you're not an asshole.

Keep reaching for that rainbow! (Ok, that sounds cheesy...)

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Originally Posted by Vaen

Aw man, and I just left Sargatanas to join Balmung! I would've loved to be in an LGBT linkshell.

Anyone interested in starting one on Balmung?

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Might be interested, unless there is one already on Balmung that I don't know of.

I wouldn't mind making one on Malboro if anyone is interested.

I didnt see such a Linkshell for Cactuar in the OP. Does anyone know of any LGBT linkshells in Cactuar? Or would be interested in starting one?

they need to add add an A to the end LGBTA what about us asexuals lol..

i seriously dont see why you have to segregate yourselves into linkshells though..

My FC Terra Flare on Ragnarok welcomes anyone as long as you are nice to you fellow player, in you come.. you can add me to your list if you want.

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Originally Posted by DenzelTaru

they need to add add an A to the end LGBTA what about us asexuals lol..

i seriously dont see why you have to segregate yourselves into linkshells though..

My FC Terra Flare on Ragnarok welcomes anyone as long as you are nice to you fellow player, in you come.. you can add me to your list if you want.

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But.. isn't that kind of the point of Linkshell communities? For like minded players to chat and group and stuff and things?

I mean, if I want to make a Linkshell for people who love blue underpants or locally grown organic honey it's not segregation.

A little crazy maybe.. I mean who likes blue underpants. I prefer red myself. :D

Please add my LS S.K.I.T.T.L.E.S to the directory, we are on Exodus, The LS is mainly just social

Hiya Mhaeric, darling.

I've made a LS on Hyperion. It's a bit different, as it's a bit Resident Evil-themed, but as you know, I'm gay. As a leader, I won't tolerate discrimination of any kind. Most starting members now come from other LGBT groups, as they're my friends, but I don't want this to be an LGBT group in the end. So, I guess "LGBT-friendly" or "anti-discriminatory" fits us best, but I'll let you make that call. Our link is here.

Thanks~

Can you add Miqo'te Deliveries as a french speaking LGBT friendly FC/LS on Ragnarok, please ?

Here's a link to the description (in French obviously) :
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...es#post1555835