Scholar's Identity Transformation

We should have gotten a fairy with a gun instead of Seraphism, huge missed opportunity
I'm pretty sure everyone would be fine with that

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Originally Posted by Emitans

I think Seraphism really shows that CBU3 has no actual internal guideline or idea of what each job is actually supposed to be. Every expac they just throw a couple of ideas at the wall and hope they stick. I can't think of any other reason for "turn into an angel in white robes" to be added to the military tactician job.

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It seems to come from people who like cosplaying their healers as sin eaters and keeping the pure white dye market alive

They got an “in” on SCH with summon seraph and now anything remotely angelic as long as it has wings has justification because seraph is the LB3 and now we can summon her directly. Before that they were mostly contained to WHM

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Originally Posted by Mouthbone

We should have gotten a fairy with a gun instead of Seraphism, huge missed opportunity
I'm pretty sure everyone would be fine with that

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You know, if the fairy did some sort of follow damage when you casted a heal I'd actually think that'd be neat

SCH becoming more Angel themed than Fairy themed is not really fitting for the character...

Seraphism is more like what I'd expect WHM's Temperance to transform into rather than being a SCH skill. And even then the costume looks like crap.

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Originally Posted by Mouthbone

We should have gotten a fairy with a gun instead of Seraphism, huge missed opportunity
I'm pretty sure everyone would be fine with that

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I suppose the MCH would be jealous :D

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

It’s the only change on the JP side that got two different threads opposing it so yeah they don’t like it

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Could you share links to the Japanese forums' Seraphism threads? I tried to find them on my own, but even with using google translate I still have trouble navigating the Japanese forums since they seem to organize their threads/posts differently from the English Forums.

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Originally Posted by SabrinaScribb1es

Could you share links to the Japanese forums' Seraphism threads? I tried to find them on my own, but even with using google translate I still have trouble navigating the Japanese forums since they seem to organize their threads/posts differently from the English Forums.

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This is the main thread on just the transformation
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...81%84%E3%81%A6

This is mostly about 6.0 SCH, but the last couple pages discuss the newer 7.0 stuff
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...82%B9%E3%83%AC

Most posts with 20-30+ likes are ones saying they are disappointed with the transformation or want to be able to toggle it off.

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Originally Posted by Icefall

This is the main thread on just the transformation
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...81%84%E3%81%A6

This is mostly about 6.0 SCH, but the last couple pages discuss the newer 7.0 stuff
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...82%B9%E3%83%AC

Most posts with 20-30+ likes are ones saying they are disappointed with the transformation or want to be able to toggle it off.

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Thank you for sharing! It's nice to see that there are players in other regions that hold some of the same opinions as us on the english forums :)

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In the media tour there is a Japanese article that includes mention of Scholar's new Seraphim transformation and potential future lore explanations:
https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/doc...w/1593842.html

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Originally Posted by Game Watch

――学者がいきなり変身していて、びっくりしました。

吉田氏：　学者は「妖精食べた？！」など、色々な歴史があって、いよいよ自身がフェアリーに転身。でもデザインはバトル班とアート班が相当な回数のやり取りをして決まっていきました。ちょっと天使よりという意見もでるかもとは思っていますが、まずはじっくり触ってみていただけると嬉しいです。

――学者はいままで海兵魂！とか、結構武骨な印象だったので、落差がすごかったです。

吉田氏：　絵替わりは非常に大事なので、こういった大胆さはあって良いと思います！

――学者のセラフィム化やソルバハムートは、どちらも裏設定がありそうなアクションですが、今回それがわかるようなジョブクエストがあるんでしょうか？

吉田氏：　一連のジョブクエストは一回完結させているのと、ジョブクエストを作った場合、縛られてジョブ自体の改修に影響がでるため、本当はあった方が良いのかもしれませんが、今回用意していません。むしろ今後別の形でサイドクエストを作る時に、その中でロアが分かるようになるということはやると思います。

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Originally Posted by Google Translation of Game Watch

--I was surprised to see the scholar transform so suddenly.

Yoshida: The scholar has a lot of history, including "Did he eat a fairy?!", and now he has finally transformed into a fairy. But the design was decided after a lot of discussion between the battle and art teams. Some people might say that it's a little more angelic, but I would be happy if you could take your time to try it out for yourself.

--Until now, the scholar has had a pretty rugged impression, with a marine spirit! So the difference was huge.

Yoshida: Changing the art is very important, so I think this kind of boldness is good!

-- Both the scholar's Seraphim transformation and Solbahamut actions seem to have a backstory, but will there be a job quest this time that reveals that?

Yoshida: The series of job quests are completed once, and if we created a job quest, it would tie us down and affect the revision of the job itself, so it might be better to have one, but we haven't prepared one this time. Rather, when we create side quests in a different form in the future, I think we'll do one that reveals the Lore.

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Keep in mind these are Google Translations and may have inaccuracies. Someone else may be able to offer a more nuanced translation.

"Some people might say that it's a little more angelic, but I would be happy if you could take your time to try it out for yourself."

What is there to try out? There is media tour footage of the whole thing now, saw a Hrothgar with Seraphism active showing the whole thing in detail. It's not "a little more angelic", the design is an angel. It's not much different than a random angel glam, just that an angel glam doesn't cut off racial traits like tails. You can call it different and pretend it's totally a fairy and super in lore somehow with some gymnastics, like some people in the threads about Seraphism, but it doesn't change how the design is by all accounts of what we have seen from angels and fairies in this game, including a grown scholar fairy in a Variant Dungeon, a generic christian angel.

I don't know, maybe it's less obvious to a person who didn't grow up surrounded by christian iconography at every corner like I did in Germany, where we had 10 churches in my small home town alone. No clue. But even if you go by stuff you see in the game only, it takes a lot to deny this costume doesn't fall into the same category as scholar fairies Lily and Statice nor Feo Ul or any other fairy in the First.

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Originally Posted by Minali

I don't know, maybe it's less obvious to a person who didn't grow up surrounded by christian iconography at every corner like I did in Germany, where we had 10 churches in my small home town alone. No clue. But even if you go by stuff you see in the game only, it takes a lot to deny this costume doesn't fall into the same category as scholar fairies Lily and Statice nor Feo Ul or any other fairy in the First.

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People need to remember.

Pixies Originate from the first, we had to connect with Feo first.
If they are the same things as Fairies, we undoubtled never have issues with them in the first place, or would of had a nod to it like all job connections.

Fairies Are from the Source, and then can evolve/power up into seraphs.

The one in AloAlo really has the most easily explainable reasons, yet one cannot ever say a thing about them as solid without them having to expand on it.

Seraphism for all intents and purposes does fit the lore of Scholar. (my most preferred healer to play.)

The topics are, and have always been just about how it looks and individual interupts your viewpoint that hasn't always been accurate.
(Just like White Mages never been 100% about being Angel's, it's about Being with light Aether Enhanced Nature Magic, and the Elementals.)

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What is needed, maybe if we ever get to a point where Seraphism further evolves and upgrades.

Is More Tactical Look, Runes, and Seraph Blue Chucked on it.

But that's the most.

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Do I wish or want them to change it to match Seraphism?

Not for or against it. But would dislike if they complete forgot the lore that has been built(Which is being misinterpreted for the intent of Muh Glamour) for it. (Some concepts thrown here just make it a clone of Enshroud, which it is just a higher vfx of all burst modes that jobs have.)

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The one thing that does need to be adjusted?

The Racial Features Lacking, just like with Enshroud.

Which needs it's own thread.

If they had put effort, and gave simple conversion into the "Transformation" or variables. You'd have Mark's on you, just like Zenos did at the end. Except this time it would be for SCH(and RPR if they ever update it)

Which is one of the things that is getting you large support, cause people dislike racial traits getting deleted, just like with Helmets, or Fangs.

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Originally Posted by Icefall

In the media tour there is a Japanese article that includes mention of Scholar's new Seraphim transformation and potential future lore explanations:
https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/doc...w/1593842.html




Keep in mind these are Google Translations and may have inaccuracies. Someone else may be able to offer a more nuanced translation.

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So we're never getting job quests again because the battle team might decide to flip flop on something later down the road.

So, uh, Yoshi-P said we're supposed to wait and see how Seraphism looks in game and check it our ourselves, right?

I just reached Lvl 100 with scholar and had a very close look.

I still hate it a lot.

The gameplay of Seraphism is fine, but it never was about the gameplay to begin with.

It might be somewhat lore appropriate in that way that they took a being that looks like an angel, acts like an angel, is named like an angel and appeared as an angel in previous Final Fantasy games and called it a fairy or fairy adjacent. However, as someone who grew up around a lot of christian symbols, churches and what not despite not even being religious, I feel it's safe to say this is an angel costume. And yes, costume. It is not exactly super different from a normal angel glam, except it also cuts off my cat ears and my tail for no good reason.

Here some comparison screenshots for the people who don't play SCH as a catgirl. (The book is not part of the transformation, that's the Shb relic.)
https://imgur.com/v0uWE63h.jpg
https://imgur.com/BCDORZlh.jpg

I'm going to finish MSQ with Scholar for queue fast pass (and because I do enjoy the actual gameplay) and then never touch it again until this is being changed. I started this game as Arcanist and struggled so hard to learn scholar in Shb for years, but I finally got the hang of it and started to enjoy it in the last year of the EW patches. It pains me to put it down again after so much work, I like the gameplay itself, but this transformation into some christian religious entity taking away my glam and my racial traits is just a big no for aesthetic reasons. However, it's not only aesthetics. I won't even recognize myself on the battle field anymore without putting a focus target on me, because my eyes are not that great at some days, even with glasses, and having her altered in her entirety like this won't help with anything.

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Originally Posted by Minali

It might be somewhat lore appropriate in that way that they took a being that looks like an angel, acts like an angel, is named like an angel and appeared as an angel in previous Final Fantasy games and called it a fairy or fairy adjacent. However, as someone who grew up around a lot of christian symbols, churches and what not despite not even being religious, I feel it's safe to say this is an angel costume. And yes, costume. It is not exactly super different from a normal angel glam, except it also cuts off my cat ears and my tail for no good reason.

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I think Yoshi-P and the dev team probably didn't understand the issue. Like ignoring the entire "christian iconography" angle. That is clearly Angel-styled. Not "Faerie"

When i think Fairy, I think "butterfly-styled wings", and indeed if you look up "fairy" in google, nearly every single image you see has butterfly styled wings. Even cartoons that expressly read "fairy" do this (see Winx Club.) When you look for "mythical pixie", you also see a lot of the same "butterfly" but also other insect-styled wings like bee and dragonfly.

Feathered wings you only see on Angels. regardless of colors. (Like "demon/devils" can have black feathers, heck FF7 Sephiroth literately has this in official artwork.) While it is not expressly "an angel thing" it is definitely contradicting the established "Fairy" lore the game has used till now.

Do I think this is a big deal? Not really, but it feels like the conflation of "White Mage" is supposed to be the "light/holy" character, with scholar who has none of that. Some people want the scholar to be the military/combat tactician and all it's relic gear reflects that aspect. So it seems really strange to have things that should be part of one healer, on the other. Like if you swapped with Temperance with Seraphism, I'm sure both jobs would be like "that fits better", though maybe not what they want either.

I think it looks wrong for SCH, yeah.
It's cool, but it's wrong.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

I think Yoshi-P and the dev team probably didn't understand the issue. Like ignoring the entire "christian iconography" angle. That is clearly Angel-styled. Not "Faerie"

When i think Fairy, I think "butterfly-styled wings", and indeed if you look up "fairy" in google, nearly every single image you see has butterfly styled wings. Even cartoons that expressly read "fairy" do this (see Winx Club.) When you look for "mythical pixie", you also see a lot of the same "butterfly" but also other insect-styled wings like bee and dragonfly.

Feathered wings you only see on Angels. regardless of colors. (Like "demon/devils" can have black feathers, heck FF7 Sephiroth literately has this in official artwork.) While it is not expressly "an angel thing" it is definitely contradicting the established "Fairy" lore the game has used till now.

Do I think this is a big deal? Not really, but it feels like the conflation of "White Mage" is supposed to be the "light/holy" character, with scholar who has none of that. Some people want the scholar to be the military/combat tactician and all it's relic gear reflects that aspect. So it seems really strange to have things that should be part of one healer, on the other. Like if you swapped with Temperance with Seraphism, I'm sure both jobs would be like "that fits better", though maybe not what they want either.

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Agreed, although I am not sure if CBU3 truly didn't understand this distinction between fae and angels. Seraph as a reoccuring figure and summon exists in previous Final Fantasy games and is very much being described as an angel. The name itself is from an angel from real world religions. (Granted, irl Shiva and FFXIV Shiva don't really have a lot in common either, but as said, it's more than just the name.) They are not the same and they should know this really well.

I still feel like they just wanted to bring in Seraph as fanservice into the game, for fans from other games with Seraph in it, and didn't know where else to put it but to the pet healing job, when creating Shadowbringers. And then things escalated. ^^;

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Originally Posted by Minali

I still feel like they just wanted to bring in Seraph as fanservice into the game, for fans from other games with Seraph in it, and didn't know where else to put it but to the pet healing job, when creating Shadowbringers. And then things escalated. ^^;

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To be fair though, Seraph has existed since long before Shadowbringers, since I think Heavensward was when job-specific LB3’s were introduced (i.e Scholar’s Angel Feathers).

It’s also worth mentioning that it’s made very clear several times through Scholar’s lore that the ‘faeries’ we see are actually two aspects of another entity (Lily, which I’ve always assumed is literally Seraph). Based on their general form (winged humanoids with fancy glowing wings), I wouldn’t say it’s much of a stretch that if you take an Angel and make it into smaller copies of itself, they’d look more like fairies than angels. Like, the fairies essentially are just ‘small angels’, and you squish two together you get a normal sized Angel (Seraph).

Plus, there’s no actual evidence for it, but considering Scholars summoned their ‘fairies’ with the intent of calling a being that would restore and strengthen those around it, I always assumed the original ‘fairies’ they summoned probably were more ‘angelic’ than ‘fairy’ (beings of light flying down from the heavens bringing healing and HP shields lol). Especially since they’re characterised as essentially ‘granting salvation’ to the otherwise too weak Nymian Military. Just a shame they got wiped out by Black Magic Cooties lol

How the hell that leads to ‘you literally become an Angel ’ is something I’ll never understand though lol. I think Seraph itself is something that’s always been intended as part of Scholar’s ‘lore’, as it were. But things like Seraphism just completely throws away literally everything they’ve tried to build before it (which unfortunately is kind of the ‘design philosophy for every job this expansion lol). Like, there is a huge gulf between ‘military tacticians that designed a means of summoning an angelic and/or fairy like aetherial construct, and a guy literally turning into an Angel before everyone’s very eyes lol. Scholars are Jesus is now ffxiv canon I guess?


Finally, why the hell did Scholars need to summon anything if they could just turn themselves into actual angels lol…

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Originally Posted by Minali

Agreed, although I am not sure if CBU3 truly didn't understand this distinction between fae and angels.

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The first White Mage Relic (Thyrus) looks like this:
https://i.ibb.co/pZZ7nxk/image.png

What does that look like? If we go by lore reasons, it looks like an elemental. But note the wing pattern. Now look at the wing pattern on the scholar Seraphism.

If we go into iconography, a seraph is a 6-wing class of angel. No two sources agree on anything other than having 6 wings. Any other angel in theology gets less and less human-like the closer to god they are. Like, just like with Shiva and Ifrit, relying on a real world interpretation inside a fantasy game is just silly.

But this is why people make these arguments. It's very clear that the white mage, scholar and astrologian are "too samey" to the point the developers have confused the lore for the healers, and have taken them in directions that might have been more appropriate on another.

If CBU3 really wants to, and they should, they should take apart all 4 healers and give them strictly different kits, lore, and job quests reflecting such going back to level 1. I like playing white mage, and I like swapping to SCH and AST, but they play so samey that I will sometimes forget to even summon the fairy. The fairy in ARR was powerful, but also would get KO'd by monsters. The fairy now is barely more than an auto cure-1 heal bot.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

The first White Mage Relic (Thyrus) looks like this:
https://i.ibb.co/pZZ7nxk/image.png

What does that look like? If we go by lore reasons, it looks like an elemental. But note the wing pattern. Now look at the wing pattern on the scholar Seraphism.

If we go into iconography, a seraph is a 6-wing class of angel. No two sources agree on anything other than having 6 wings. Any other angel in theology gets less and less human-like the closer to god they are. Like, just like with Shiva and Ifrit, relying on a real world interpretation inside a fantasy game is just silly.

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Isn’t a lot of that to do with culture and/or a general misunderstanding of Christianity aside from broader features that are more universally known though? I.E the figure of Angel would be easily recognized by many people in Japan, but if they were shown a Cherub (the baby Angel one not the giant head on fire with wings lol) or a Seraph, there’s a good chance many would still just identity those as ‘Angel’. I also imagine they’d use the words interchangeably, I.e using Seraph to refer to an Angel.

So I think they’ve just been using ‘Angel’ more as a generic term for ‘shiny being with wings’ as opposed to the more traditional ‘winged servants of [a] God’. Hence why there’s so much ‘Angel’ iconography going everywhere - because they see ‘wings + shiny = Angel’ lol. Which would make sense given that Christianity as far as I know isn’t really a big thing in JP, so they aren’t really exposed to that kind of iconography to have more than a passing knowledge of the details.

As for why they decided to use that exact same iconography for two completely separate classes…I don’t even think a real Angel could figure that one out lol

I am really happy to see that other people hate this too!
SCH main since Heavensward here, and I CANNOT express how much I hate this whole 'Angel theme' they force on Scholars.
I started rolling my eyes when they made the fairy turn into seraph...but when they introduced this hideous angel costume transformation, I was horrified...well....I still am.
Someone in the Dev Team really must HAAATE Scholars for some reason...
I mean...what is the design now even?
Fairy, Tactitian, Angels, Military, Academic?????
And now they added Angel Cosplayer to that mess???!!

You can come and try to convince me about Seraph/Angels actually being lore-accurate to Scholars all you want. I HATE it. So much so that I refuse to use that skill even.
So SE apparently wanting to give Jobs their identities back in 8.0, my hopes are up and fingers are crossed!

Hey.

So I love the idea of merging with the fairy and becoming and transforming into a super powered healer. I like the angelic design used myself, but I'm in the camp it feels bizarre.

Titania is right there. We should look like them and not a generic angel. Especially since the SCH fairies are the same type of thing as a pixie, only under a special contract. The angel thing just gives me sin eater vibes the same way Reaper's enshroud merges us with our voidsent and turns us into a generic grim reaper-like design.

This is the kind of thing I hope job skins let us change.

There's probably no hope, but I've always wished that SCH maintained this like "10 steps ahead" kind of gameplay where you'd have cooldowns that don't trigger right away but have to be timed in advance appropriately and then maybe you could have a separate 90s cooldown that speeds up the activation time in a pinch.

When Endwalker came out I hate that SGE got all of the QoL that SCH should have had in terms of their job gauge.

In Dawntrail I was further disappointed that dissipation not only didn't get any QoL, but was further nerfed because Energy Drain is still 100 potency and you can't combine it with any of the other big SCH cooldowns.Not only that, but Seraphism is ugly. The skill makes no sense thematically. I really really REALLY wished we could have summoned Feo Ul's Titania form instead of Seraphism.

I am really hoping they can at least fix SCH's job gauge in Evercold, but I feel like its identity outsite of chain and expedient has withered away.

Don't even get me started on how crazy it is that the SCH job quests cure the tonberry curse and because its a job quest it basically doesn't exist as canon

SGE got all the QOL

if the addersgall gauge is considered QOL then SGE can keep it

Somehow an awful ripoff and unbelievably boring to boot

(Also where do people keep thinking Titania is remotely relevant, a pixie is the spirit of a dead child, a fairie is a form of aetheric construct, it’s no more thematic than the sin eater like transformation we currently have)

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When Endwalker came out I hate that SGE got all of the QoL that SCH should have had in terms of their job gauge.

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Hard capping your resources at 3 instead of having that refresh to be able to have 6 charges in bad situations is QoL? Please, do explain how a gradual, 20 second charge is beneficial over 3 charges on a minute timer. The only QoL flow should get is being able to use out of combat again, or give us the blanket healer 'full charge' at the start of duties, but for the love of god, don't give us that shoddy slow filling gauge.

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Originally Posted by RaionKansen

I really really REALLY wished we could have summoned Feo Ul's Titania form instead of Seraphism.

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I assume they don't for the same reason SMN got Summon Solar Bahamut instead of Summon Hydaelyn, despite everything about Solar's skill set, theming, and coloring matching her; it's a spoiler.

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Originally Posted by Uzephi

Hard capping your resources at 3 instead of having that refresh to be able to have 6 charges in bad situations is QoL? Please, do explain how a gradual, 20 second charge is beneficial over 3 charges on a minute timer. The only QoL flow should get is being able to use out of combat again, or give us the blanket healer 'full charge' at the start of duties, but for the love of god, don't give us that shoddy slow filling gauge.

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(Its always the people that don't do actual content that say silly things)

If you need to use 6 charges of Aetheflow you're doing something very, very, wrong. That pretty much means you're going to be using Lustrate 3 or 4 times. Its also going to take you at least 3 GCDs to get off unless you're going to like 6-8-tuple weave?

Addersgall generates constantly. So much so that you end up having to send random Drucholes out so that you don't overcap and so that you can keep your mana up.
You also get another charge on backup with Rhizomata. You also don't have to lose potency just to use your mit. Its also easier to get your mana back up on death since you're not stuck waiting for Aetherflow to come off cooldown & you can just keep Rhizomata on stand-by if you want to play it safe.

I will take Taurochole over Excog any day. Excog can only help top someone top up, it can't prevent them from dying to a hit at full HP in a pinch

Toxikon gives you movement and is the consolation for spending GCDs on your shields. You can also do cool things like throw out shields during downtime to get your charges back. A lot of things will change with Evolved mode, so I could see this becoming completely irrelevant in the future unless Toxikon end up having increased damage so that you don't lose any potency for GCD healing.

What you end up typically seeing from SCHs in Savage/Ultimate is they only use Sacred soil. Everything else goes into Energy Drain even though its only worth maybe 9-12 Broil IV's being completely greedy in like a 9min encounter. Some won't even use soil. Sometimes you see Indom, but its because instead of using Recitation for spreadlo, all they use it for is indom.

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Originally Posted by RaionKansen

(Its always the people that don't do actual content that say silly things)

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"Actual content." Your view on "actual content" is interesting. Never knew content 80% of the players never touch being considered the defacto only content viable in the game. There were plenty of times more than 3 charges of aetherflow were very useful in content 100% of the players do engage with. Bringing up content where healers just follow a script and not reacting to first timers in a duty or similar where things commonly go wrong... Is a choice... You can sit there in your savage bubble being ignorant of the fun nuances we enjoy on the lower end of the game, like having the utility to have that much healing when needed. (Godsend in Windurst, let me tell you...)

Edit: you checked my character for that assumption, yes? "Actual content" how far have you gone in PT solo? HoH? POTD? I would call a solo run, even half completed "actual content" over an arena boss that's just a harder version of the story boss.

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Originally Posted by RaionKansen

If you need to use 6 charges of Aetheflow you're doing something very, very, wrong. That pretty much means you're going to be using Lustrate 3 or 4 times. Its also going to take you at least 3 GCDs to get off unless you're going to like 6-8-tuple weave?

Addersgall generates constantly. So much so that you end up having to send random Drucholes out so that you don't overcap and so that you can keep your mana up.

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3 GCDs is still less than the minimum of 20 seconds for a 4th charge (not counting Rhizo, and gets trounced by the extra two banking flow yields on a shorter CD).

So clunky having to add overheals because you need to dump resources to gain mana, if there was only a spell on a 60 second CD that yields similar MP... Oh, wait...

I love how we are now framing recitation being able to be used on indom as a bad thing and also ignoring soil is stronger than kerechole

And somehow having the risky backup of dissipation is bad because…….weave windows? As if you’d still be doing damage if you were willing to dissipate for resource generation to save something

Addersgall is just a boring copy of aetherflow with literally all the nuance ripped out of it

Because the decision maker is cold and cruel and HEARTLESS!

Jokes aside, I really hope that with the announcement of skill skins, we will be able to transform into something less angelic and more Feo Ul or even just vanilla fairy aesthetic.

White Mage is like an angel already, purity and white robes.

Scholar should not be mixed with that, it doesn't really make sense, it's been about the faerie and knowledge/books. They should make you turn into a Tonberry if they're gonna go down that route. s/ Or more realistically make you get powers from the (5th astral era?) a stronger mage or scholar. Personally I think of Zelda and the Kokiri forest, or Netherland, not angels with Scholar. Keep that aesthetic to WHM.

My Viper character is literally an angel warrior which looks cool to me, but only because I had the agency to choose that look. Player's normally try to make a transmog that makes sense for the class, for instance SCH tends to be a studious academic or a forest dweller/faerie. I see many going down that route, if they suddenly bust out angel wings etc in their combat it won't make sense.

Calling it now, we'll see a Titania/Feo Ul glamour for Seraph and/or Seraphism in the store once action skins are implemented.

Laughable that seraphism just turns scholar into white mage xD