That Which He Does Not Play

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I'm sorry the what now ? Me saying that their character could be an alt makes me an "aveyond dreamer" ? Judging based on someone's character on the forums is ridiculous, period.

This is also my alt, so what ? Because this is an alt I have no right to complaint about anything in the game?

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Lol nobody said you can’t complain, aveyonds complainants do lack substance though, its in his own OP even, PERSONAL. But yeah most of you go very hard on people that dare to say anything against him, which is also ridiculous. You can’t know thats his alt or not either.

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Originally Posted by Sweetness

But that’s literally what I wrote the first time.xd

Also it’s mostly the fact that aveyond makes these posts that rile people up and he doesn’t have the balls to do it from his main

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There's no need for the character used as forum face to be the main character on that service account. As far as I can tell there is no way to see what other characters someone has on a service account from the forum. I could use my alt on NA I have on this account as face here.

Y'all need to take a breath and step back, jeez. This is starting (or to some, already too far gone) to get very unhealthy levels of rage.

The statement the OP made has already been debunked by quite a few of you and they end up getting yelled at? Plenty of FFXIVs parts get updated and tweaked, regardless of if Yoshi-P does that content or not. To assume only content he's interested in gets attention is ludicrous at least and hilariously delusional at worst.

Please. Consider taking a moment to realize how beyond-dumb this thread has got and perhaps move on?

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I'm sorry the what now ? Me saying that their character could be an alt makes me an "aveyond dreamer" ? Judging based on someone's character on the forums is ridiculous, period.

This is also my alt, so what ? Because this is an alt I have no right to complaint about anything in the game?

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I think it's less you not having a right and more skepticism on the validity of points made if you don't have the experience to back what you say. For example I wouldn't be trusting what someone who isn't versed in geology says when it comes to information about the earth. Or for a xiv example I wouldn't be trusting what a non savage player says about savage.

Is it possible for people to still have correct info? Ofc. But the skepticism is fair imo

Wow, this is still going. Successful bait thread, I guess. Just wish it was actually funny.

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Originally Posted by Sweetness

It doesn’t need to be your main but problem is nobody can get reported with in game suspensions for forum activity which I find astounding, unless anyone has proof otherwise. And if anyone actually started beefing I’d rather their whole account be nuked than alts.

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Reported for what?

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Reported for what?

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Apparently, for having bad takes and not quitting a game he does not currently enjoy.

Dunno, this thread turned into complete insanity 20 pages ago. You all need to reflect on yourselves.

Literally every single Aveyond thread in the history of these forums:

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...917.1654817530

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

Literally every single Aveyond thread in the history of these forums:

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Hahahaha that's perfect.

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Originally Posted by Kenky

Please. Consider taking a moment to realize how beyond-dumb this thread has got and perhaps move on?

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I swear there's some unintentional hidden message here...

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Wow, this is still going. Successful bait thread, I guess. Just wish it was actually funny.

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Maybe you should stop trolling, it might be more interesting that way, but that's all you do on these forums so I'm not that surprised. "I dont like this thread, BAITTTT!!!!!"

It would be interesting to see people have to respond to others in person instead of just writing a response. I have a feeling there wouldn't be nearly as many insults. Can you imagine if we talked like this in real life? "YOU'RE TROLLING!" "luL, DIDN'T listen!" "haha, my passive aggressive memes!"

I guess it wouldn't be as entertaining.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

To be fair, what outcome did you expect trying to reason with zealots?
We allow this to happen in the public forum even when it comes to issues that affect many others. Of course it would happen in just about any entertainment forum, lol.

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ah you mean the aveyond defense force.
Are your rations burgers? xD

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Communication comes in the form of live letters, the bulk of which aren't even officially translated.
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And when a vastly upvoted concise healer question is finally addressed in a live letter (despite being entirely misconstrued), it's completely blown off.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Those queues are fake. Do the experiment at night and see how random the numbers are from one account to another.

I've had queues up to 26 at night on Sagittarius which is the lowest EU world right now, while bigger worlds like Ragnarok get no queue at all, this is also taken at night at like 4 AM. Yet if you go on Sagi's Limsa, the place is almost completely empty.



As in if you log on one account, and then at the same time log on another account

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I would like to see sources on this instead of wild speculation.

The login server is not specific to individual servers, rather 26 concurrent logins on the entire data server. It handles logins very quickly- that is to say a number like 26 to zero is hardly surprising.

Moreover, just because it is an EU server doesn’t mean all players are in the EU, or that these players are the ones that hang out in Limsa.

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Originally Posted by hagare

ah you mean the aveyond defense force.
Are your rations burgers? xD

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Naw the burgers and lopporits are their kryptonite.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Maybe you should stop trolling, it might be more interesting that way, but that's all you do on these forums so I'm not that surprised. "I dont like this thread, BAITTTT!!!!!"

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Id rather see her troll than have people like you here lying on others. I'd rather have folks here addressing actual counter points and not ignoring them because of who said them.

All YOU do here is complain and insult others which is far more detrimental to the health of a thread. I've tried to treat the thread as real but when the defense to counter points are "its sad folks can't connect the dots" or "you're the epitome of a white knight", it's very hard to take seriously

22 pages in 24 hours?
Not bad, Aveyond continues to deliver.

I can guess, not actually reading the whole thread that he only responds to the people that agree with him, and just takes indirect potshots at people who disagrees with him.
Literally just avoiding conversation on a thread he created. Lets his Friends/Defenders talk for him.

But I did read the front page, and, well I already know I cant take it seriously.
Which is sad, OP sounds like he wants to be taken seriously, then just says very dumb and hilarious things

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Indeed. With the game haemorrhaging players these days, the use of the word success by this article is quite liberal. I tire of being subject to Yoshi's whims and biases when it comes to the quality of classes, customization, and content.

This isn't working.

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While I agree with you that FFXIV is in a pretty bad spot right now, I wouldn't blame Yoshi-P directly. His hands are full with FF16 as well as being a member of the Board of Directors for Square Enix. We can clearly see that FFXIV is on a shoestring budget with a dev team the size of an indie company. They've likely simplified things for budgetary purposes and to make balancing easier on the small handful of devs that they have, not for Yoshi-P's tastes. Same for Island Sanctuary; it was well-polished but obviously there's not much they can add without it taking a whole patch worth of resources. And that's fine; not all companies are like Blizzard. Maybe after FF16 comes out, Square Enix will have money and resources for this game or the next MMO.

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

Not the defence force, more like same person with a bunch of accounts logging out and in to like their own comments and another one or two sad friends doing the same. It’s suspicious how some users only comment on his thread to boost it up and they immediately get a lot of likes even when there is barely any actual action on the forum ;).

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......I hate that Ive had this thought quite a few times.
But I just never said it out loud. Some things do seem off and suspicious.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

......I hate that Ive had this thought quite a few times.
But I just never said it out loud. Some things do seem off and suspicious.

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Yes all 36 people who liked Aveyond's OP are all their accounts and their "sad friends"

god you guys will go so far just because you dislike someone and their opinion, its beyond pathetic at this point

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

I can guess, not actually reading the whole thread that he only responds to the people that agree with him, and just takes indirect potshots at people who disagrees with him.
Literally just avoiding conversation on a thread he created. Lets his Friends/Defenders talk for him.

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With how many people hate on him in every thread he makes for the sole reason of they don't like him (and I'm not just talking about people who simply disagree with him), I'm not surprised that he doesn't bother responding to them. I don't agree with Aveyond on every topic either, but c'mon. His haters are far more fanatical and persistent than his defenders/friends. Aveyond's threads are always so long because you have the same crowd of people jumping in and bringing up stuff like the burger nonsense for no reason other than to have a laugh at someone they don't like or to discredit what he's saying. If I had to deal with that in threads I make, I'd probably start ignoring people too.

And before anyone uses the excuse of "we're just disagreeing with him", I don't necessarily agree with him here either. Yoshi's busy doing FF16 right now. Whether he SHOULD be, or if the game is being handled well currently are different discussions, but I don't think that Yoshi not having done recent grindy content is necessarily important. However, a lot of what goes on in his threads goes past simple disagreement. I'm not saying that everyone here is here in bad faith, so no one get defensive, but neither is everyone here in good faith.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

......I hate that Ive had this thought quite a few times.
But I just never said it out loud. Some things do seem off and suspicious.

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I pointed out that there was suspicious activity with the likes on anti-Aveyond posts in a previous thread about two weeks ago. No one, including you, believed me. I was told that it's just the forum agreeing with people who disagree with Aveyond. Now that there's been a claim about supposedly suspicious behavior that goes the other way around, it now has merit? Zanarkand, it's just the forum agreeing with them. :rolleyes:

Anti-Aveyond post that gets 20 likes instantly? Forum agreement.
Pro-Aveyond (or at least not explicitly anti-Aveyond) post that gets 5-10? Bots/Alts.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The poster right under me also got 2 upvotes instantly

Oh no the conspiracy

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Uh oh, I liked your comment! Looks like we're alts of each other!

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's almost like when there's drama on the forum people keep up with the respective thread. Perhaps that in itself speaks for how engaging the game is at the moment.

I'm not lending any weight to the utterly bizarre conspiracy theories being peddled, though. I'll be honest - I expected better from some of the posters in this thread even if I don't necessarily agree with them.

Maybe it's time to seriously consider that you're being rather creepy, dehumanising and there's actual people behind every poster. Especially those of us who, y'know, have made it pretty damn obvious that we're separate people by posting consistently and separately over many years.

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Agreed on all accounts. Personally I've mostly found Zanarkand to be a pretty decent poster, and while I certainly have expected others to scream "alt!!!" at people who disagree with them (it's happened before on the lore forums), I didn't quite expect Zanarkand to buy into that. To everyone who buys into this 'alt' thing, consider this. How can we be sure that you're not an alt if you've like some of the posts here disagreeing with Aveyond? Well, agreeing or disagreeing with someone doesn't change the fact that you're a unique human individual behind the keyboard, right? Exactly. So are we.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Yes all 36 people who liked Aveyond's OP are all their accounts and their "sad friends"

god you guys will go so far just because you dislike someone and their opinion, its beyond pathetic at this point

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cue the instant 5 upvotes

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

cue the instant 5 upvotes

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The poster right under me also got 2 upvotes instantly

Oh no the conspiracy

She even has 4 now. Would you look at that, the plot thickens !

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

......I hate that Ive had this thought quite a few times.
But I just never said it out loud. Some things do seem off and suspicious.

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Id say more, unfortunately it derrails the main topic, but hey if we ever meet in game in some way, Ill buy us some caramels and we can laugh it off for the one minute it is worth talking about.
Cheers!
https://media.tenor.com/Rhju9KDgbA4A...4-loporrit.gif

It's almost like when there's drama on the forum people keep up with the respective thread. Perhaps that in itself speaks for how engaging the game is at the moment.

I'm not lending any weight to the utterly bizarre conspiracy theories being peddled, though. I'll be honest - I expected better from some of the posters in this thread even if I don't necessarily agree with them.

Maybe it's time to seriously consider that you're being rather creepy, dehumanising and there's actual people behind every poster. Especially those of us who, y'know, have made it pretty damn obvious that we're separate people by posting consistently and separately over many years.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's almost like when there's drama on the forum people keep up with the respective thread. Perhaps that in itself speaks for how engaging the game is at the moment.

I'm not lending any weight to the utterly bizarre conspiracy theories being peddled, though. I'll be honest - I expected better from some of the posters in this thread even if I don't necessarily agree with them.

Maybe it's time to seriously consider that you're being rather creepy, dehumanising and there's actual people behind every poster. Especially those of us who, y'know, have made it pretty damn obvious that we're separate people by posting consistently and separately over many years.

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I just liked your post, but since you, me and AwesomeJr44 are all alts of each other, I'm sure you already know that

/sarcasm off

Damn, you guys got me. With my 36 accounts I pay $540 a month just to talk on the forums.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

Damn, you guys got me. With my 36 accounts I pay $540 a month just to talk on the forums.

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We are one. We are Aveyond.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

We are one. We are Aveyond.

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Hi, other me.

Yeah, the jig is up. They know our plans.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

Damn, you guys got me. With my 36 accounts I pay $540 a month just to talk on the forums.

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Well, AveyodricestopearontJr44, you might want to switch to an entry level account. You could save $72 a month by switching to Geico making this simple change.

Which of you has cleared Ultimate so I can brag about doing so? ;)

I'm liking all of this page's posts so I can show support for our shared accounts. Beep Boop Beep.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The poster right under me also got 2 upvotes instantly

Oh no the conspiracy

She even has 4 now. Would you look at that, the plot thickens !

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You care way too much about this lol

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

You care way too much about this lol

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Nobody is obligated to just stand by idly when they're accused of something that simply isn't true.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Yes all 36 people who liked Aveyond's OP are all their accounts and their "sad friends"

god you guys will go so far just because you dislike someone and their opinion, its beyond pathetic at this point

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I never disliked you, Aveyond, or any of his friends, or 32 or whatever upvotes.
Keep that Hateraid going strong I guess.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

I pointed out that there was suspicious activity with the likes on anti-Aveyond posts in a previous thread about two weeks ago. No one, including you, believed me. I was told that it's just the forum agreeing with people who disagree with Aveyond. Now that there's been a claim about supposedly suspicious behavior that goes the other way around, it now has merit? Zanarkand, it's just the forum agreeing with them. :rolleyes:

Anti-Aveyond post that gets 20 likes instantly? Forum agreement.
Pro-Aveyond (or at least not explicitly anti-Aveyond) post that gets 5-10? Bots/Alts.

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There is a good reason I never said it out loud. Because I have no proof of it, and it is a pretty ridiculous claim. Unlike Aveyond who likes to make claims that they cannot and will not even try to prove, but will act like its objective fact.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Maybe you should stop trolling, it might be more interesting that way, but that's all you do on these forums so I'm not that surprised. "I dont like this thread, BAITTTT!!!!!"

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Posts like this remind me why the word "troll" lost it's Internet meaning a long time. Heck, I don't even know how long it lost its meaning as it happens quite often.

That being said, Yoshi-P may not always have the time play his own game at his own time as he is busy with other things. Whether he likes Island Sanctuary or not is not really relevant to how the state of the game is or how others should feel about the content.

I for one am satisfied with Island Sanctuary.

*Continues to eat popcorn on this thread.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

You care way too much about this lol

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It's not like there aren't things you care way too much about. Shall I mention the V word? Ven- *bzzt*

Sorry everyone, I had the wrong settings turned on. They're off now. Sorry if that affected any of our shared minds. Beep Boop Blip.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Nobody is obligated to just stand by idly when they're accused of something that simply isn't true.

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Lol, I know how that feels on several threads XD