I don't accept your apology

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

That did not answer..ya know what nevermind. You suck at reading.

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Ask someone to translate the information for you into interpretive farts because any of the languages they post in you are unable to comprehend.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

That did not answer..ya know what nevermind. You suck at reading.

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I highly doubt you read through that topic in 2 minutes.

You suck at research.

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Originally Posted by Esper56

I highly doubt you read through that topic in 2 minutes.

You suck at research.

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I understand what they are asking for.
And they are Laser Focused on that ONE thing. It doesn't matter if you explain Server Congestion or even that the team is working on Solutions to the problem.
Jadedsins wants and only cares about ONE thing, A ReQue
They want a System where if for Whatever Reason they get an error/kicked out the game, they want a system that gives them Priority back to the front of the line to get back in. They want the game to recognize an Error Logout and get them back in automatically within a Period of time.
And then they want to be told Why that idea/system can't be in the game cause its not in the game. And act like its a simple system.

Hopefully thats a More Digestible way to get their point across, cause I know they have a habit of just being Snarky and devolve to Name Calling

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Originally Posted by Kanzer

Yes because everyone has the exact same schedule as you and is able to just log in during non peak hours. Do you have to work at being this obtuse? Or does it just come naturally?

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I mean, if I'm "obtuse" then you certainly fit the criteria of what assumptions do.

There are three valid reasons you can't play at all in off peak hours.

1. You're still at school, therefore mind your manners and stick to your schoolwork.

2. You're a parent that works 9 - 5, therefore you probably got other things to do with your time, like maybe not ignoring your kids so you can be on videogame?

3. You just can't be bothered to change your sleeping pattern so you can get up a little earlier or stay up a little later to get time in during off peak. In which case, that's a you problem.

See this is problem with some of the WoWfugees as much as most of them are most welcome and have fit right in and are happy to have them here...

You want to throw insults around like you're still on the Battlenet forums and not expect the more actually adult community to swing back.

Now if you're an older person, yes, maturity is a mindset and if you want to jump on a forum throwing around snipey remarks, then I think you should probably concentrate more on growing up than whether or not you can get on a video game.

Was that Obtuse enough for you?

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

That did not answer..ya know what nevermind. You suck at reading.

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I suggest you educate yourself before attacking your betters

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

There are three valid reasons you can't play at all in off peak hours.

1. You're still at school, therefore mind your manners and stick to your schoolwork.

2. You're a parent that works 9 - 5, therefore you probably got other things to do with your time, like maybe not ignoring your kids so you can be on videogame?

3. You just can't be bothered to change your sleeping pattern so you can get up a little earlier or stay up a little later to get time in during off peak. In which case, that's a you problem.

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These are the only three valid reasons, eh? Like, dude...

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

I suggest you educate yourself before attacking your betters

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Their betters?

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

I suggest you educate yourself before attacking your betters

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Yes, because I asked for something and you all link me something that has nothing to do with what I asked for.


Lmao betters. Ok little guy.

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

I suggest you educate yourself before attacking your betters

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The classic defense of the passive aggressive troll is to go right for intellect, thinking themselves smarter.

Commonly known thing in psychology anyone that has a tendency to try act intellectually superior, I.e "bragging about their supposed massive intelligence" is usually the opposite and feels the need to constantly compensate by trying to tell everyone "just how much smarter they are than them"

It's basically the same thing as small other things, compensatory behaviour by bragging.

So by all means, continue, tell me just how massive your brain apparently is and just how superior your intellect is.

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Originally Posted by Zyama

Their betters?

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I know what I said, thank you.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

The classic defense of the passive aggressive troll is to go right for intellect, thinking themselves smarter.

Commonly known thing in psychology anyone that has a tendency to try act intellectually superior, I.e "bragging about their supposed massive intelligence" is usually the opposite and feels the need to constantly compensate by trying to tell everyone "just how much smarter they are than them"

It's basically the same thing as small other things, compensatory behaviour by bragging.

So by all means, continue, tell me just how massive your brain apparently is and just how superior your intellect is.

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Sorry, honey, but you aren't the slighted victim that you want to be seen as.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

Yes, because I asked for something and you all link me something that has nothing to do with what I asked for.


Lmao betters. Ok little guy.

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Please, continue this little temper tantrum of yours. It's adorable.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

The classic defense of the passive aggressive troll is to go right for intellect, thinking themselves smarter.

Commonly known thing in psychology anyone that has a tendency to try act intellectually superior, I.e "bragging about their supposed massive intelligence" is usually the opposite and feels the need to constantly compensate by trying to tell everyone "just how much smarter they are than them"

It's basically the same thing as small other things, compensatory behaviour by bragging.

So by all means, continue, tell me just how massive your brain apparently is and just how superior your intellect is.

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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand FFXIV. The lore is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of aetherial physics most of the jokes will go over a typical player's head.

/s

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

I know what I said, thank you.



Sorry, honey, but you aren't the slighted victim that you want to be seen as.

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Oh I'm not a victim, just calling it as it is.

So which one is it? Your "massive intellect" brag or something a little more sinister, because you know what "your betters" can also constitute, given it's a phrase often associated with a certain type of individual that like to wear bed sheets.

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Originally Posted by Bellsong

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand FFXIV. The lore is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of aetherial physics most of the jokes will go over a typical player's head.

/s

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You could at least try to be original. Or are you incapable?

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Oh I'm not a victim, just calling it as it is.

So which one is it? Your "massive intellect" brag or something a little more sinister, because you know what "your betters" can also constitute, given it's a phrase often associated with a certain type of individual that like to wear bed sheets.

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Woe is you, I see. No one's buying it, honey.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

Your answers was unacceptable. The 7 days extra is not going to make me feel better.


You want to say sorry? How about if we get dced in the game, give us 5 mins to log back instead of putting us in a queue? Or better yet, make it if we get dc out of a queue give us longer time to get back in, for our spot.

The extra 7 days you can stick that where the sun don't shine. It means very little when you understood this was going to happen, but did not make it any easier on us.


Also, seeing the replies already, At least I get my money worth calling out this community.

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It's important to keep in mind that the influx of players was so dramatic, Square couldn't have seen such a thing coming. Luckily, this is a sign that they can probably invest in more resources. Be patient, things will be taken care of accordingly. I'm sure the last thing they want is angry customers.

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Originally Posted by Vav2021

It's important to keep in mind that the influx of players was so dramatic, Square couldn't have seen such a thing coming. Luckily, this is a sign that they can probably invest in more resources. Be patient, things will be taken care of accordingly. I'm sure the last thing they want is angry customers.

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You're wasting your time.

They don't want the truth. They want their temper tantrums validated.

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

You could at least try to be original. Or are you incapable?

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Oh how you wound me! I'll have you know that meme is an original, I changed the words around all by myself!

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Originally Posted by Bellsong

Oh how you wound me! I'll have you know that meme is an original, I changed the words around all by myself!

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So easily triggered, huh?

Have you considered quiting if you're so wounded by something you were informed upon ahead of time and explained why? No? You'll just remain throwing this fit of yours and ignoring reality? Huh. Interesting.

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Originally Posted by Flipityflu

childish temper tantrums have had me eating way too much popcorn this weekend. lol

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All the sugar rush I've gotten from the caramel popcorns I've been popping lately.

My Q was at only around 400 this afternoon. I got to play just fine. Just to compare... it was at 6000 yesterday at the same time. It seems wait times are already faster now so i wont complain.

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Originally Posted by Lunafreya

My Q was at only around 400 this afternoon. I got to play just fine. Just to compare... it was at 6000 yesterday at the same time. It seems wait times are already faster now so i wont complain.

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Good for you! Glad things are better.

For me I can't even get into the queue to find out how bad it is. 2002 before I even get there. :)

The dcing is valid point should have a grace period of few mins at least during expansion launchs. After sitting in queue of 6k+ with dcs and resets finally getting in starting next quest. Then running to npc and dcing back to a 6k queue isn't fun at all.

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Originally Posted by Myrany

Good for you! Glad things are better.

For me I can't even get into the queue to find out how bad it is. 2002 before I even get there. :)

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I send you all my luck to get in and play the game. Lord knows I cant use it lmao

I was there to experience the stormblood disaster and memes, and now there's probably five times as many people playing with no new servers being added thanks to the chip shortage.
Honestly what were people expecting?
I'm guessing this is many people's first rodeo of major mmo updates.

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Originally Posted by Orbus

I was there to experience the stormblood disaster and memes, and now there's probably five times as many people playing with no new servers being added thanks to the chip shortage.
Honestly what were people expecting?
I'm guessing this is many people's first rodeo of major mmo updates.

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I'm still trying to figure out what a chip shortage have to do with not being happy I have to babysit a queue timer, and getting dc in game puts you in queue.


Is this chip shortage thing what people tell themselves to feel better about this?

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Originally Posted by Xrystofer

What OP said is not unreasonable. I just lost my queue number 8 and I have to do it all over again. This is not acceptable to me. If I get DC'ed or lose my queue to an error I should be able to hold my queue number or get a priority queue if I try to reconnect right away.



First off, he is paying for a service and that does make him entitled to the service. You are not using the entitled meme correctly.

Secondly, you do not even get his point of view. He is complaining about the lack of measures, not the long queue waits. If you DC and attempt to log right away you should get priority in the queue. If you get an error while in the queue you should be able to hold your queue number for a few minutes. There's no excuse to have to start over and wait another 4-5 hours to log in.

If you have no standards for the services that you are paying that is on you, my friend. I think that you should have higher standards, but you do you.

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And on any other day when you get DC'd and there is a queue you get put in the queue, nothing has changed. You are expecting special treatment because it's early access.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

I'm still trying to figure out what a chip shortage have to do with not being happy I have to babysit a queue timer, and getting dc in game puts you in queue.


Is this chip shortage thing what people tell themselves to feel better about this?

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Servers require hardware to upgrade and expand, without the required hardware made with certain components you can't upgrade or expand your servers. I work for an Electronics Manufactauring company, we have certain parts that have a lead time of August 2023. The part shortages ARE real.

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Originally Posted by Flipityflu

childish temper tantrums have had me eating way too much popcorn this weekend. lol

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oi oi share these beautifull popcorns with me! ;-)

I wonder. You can pay a server company to allocate servers dedicated to your platform. Why isnt this an option for SE? It would use their resources as well.

Because SE decided to crunch the number and decided that they would loose less money from people leaving. Then from paying for the servers.

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Originally Posted by Black_Wing

And on any other day when you get DC'd and there is a queue you get put in the queue, nothing has changed. You are expecting special treatment because it's early access.

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but there is a huge difference between before EW. when you dc and had a que of100 or less. to the day EW launched and not you have 5k+

If you don't accept the apology, you as a customer have the power to play no longer and move on to the next broken game. Battlefield, GTA, mass effect 4, Or the long list of triple-A games that have come out broken over the last years.

have you heard how bad it was back in 1.0. This is a great launch.



Releasing broken games is now acceptable for some reason
Sadly games don't need to be gold if we can patch them later seem to ring true for all dev but a few small guys that really care.

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

If you don't accept the apology, you as a customer have the power to play no longer and move on to the next broken game. Battlefield, GTA, mass effect 4, Or the long list of triple-A games that have come out broken over the last years.

have you heard how bad it was back in 1.0. This is a great launch.



[URL="https://www.noobfeed.com/features/1659/releasing-broken-games-is-now-acceptable-for-some-reason"]Releasing broken games is now acceptable for some reasonURL]
Sadly games don't need to be gold if we can patch them later seem to ring true for all dev but a few small guys that really care.

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This is flawed logic. Just because I don't like how they handle this. Does not mean I should give up other parts of the game that I do. This must be a western thing for sure. If you don't like this part of something quit. Is the dumbest answer I have seen in my life.


I'm just calling the developers out on this. We had these same issues before the launch of the expansion, and they did not fix them.


I am also calling the community out who keeps deflecting to a chip shortage, that has nothing to do with the errors, and wanting a buffer for when you get dc in game you can jump back in.


I think I did a good job on it. I feel better.

Well, everyone is talking like SE should have expected all of this to happen. I have been part of every FFXIV launch and I have never seen this before. If you would have told me that I would have to sit in a queue of 5K and wait over an hour to log into FFXIV a couple of years ago, I would have laughed at you. Even if they did anticipate it, it was probably too late. They probably didn't have the time to get the physical infrastructure in place. However, my only question is... we're in the age of cloud computing where you can literally rent resources and scale them to your immediate needs. Couldn't they just have hooked up with some infrastructure-as-a-service cloud vendor for at least launch? All these people will likely be gone in a week or two. They just want to experience the story and see the conclusion to this story arc. Didn't have to invest in permanent resources.

All of that changes nothing.
People can try to que up or continue to play the forums.

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Originally Posted by Tuza

Clearly no one that is upset about this is a FFXI veteran. See you on PlayOnline!

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I am an FFXI vet, yet, this does not bother me one bit.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

Ah yes, here is a prime example of the IQ of this community. Notice how they use buzz words like everyone else. Entitled now is the new buzz word.



Having myself or friends get DC from the game and get booted into a queue is unacceptable. So saying hey you knew this was going to happen, why if you get dc from the game you got put in a queue? Why is it only 1 min to get back. No matter how much you love this company if you can't accept that is a reason to be upset with them. Well shows just how sad you all are.

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No, it shows how sad you are since you think you are more important than anyone else to play this game. Just as many other people have said, if this bothers you so much, stop playing. Come back when you are more calm and collected.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

When you get the error code. Have the game retry to put you back into queue. Not close the game out.


When you dc from game. Add a buffer to get back in the game without a queue


That is it. Them two small changes would make this easier to deal with and less stress for everyone.

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As a developer, myself, this may sound simple. This is not always the case. When you really look under the hood and find that it requires a lot more work that originally thought to make sure implementing supposed fix doesn't break anything else.

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Originally Posted by Demonicpagan

As a developer, myself, this may sound simple. This is not always the case. When you really look under the hood and find that it requires a lot more work that originally thought to make sure implementing supposed fix doesn't break anything else.

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You're wasting your time with them.

They have no idea what they're talking about but want to pretend that they're a genius.

They are attempting to address the lobby disconnects now.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...24153ef4405c13

It's interesting, OP is a lvl 88 Dancer since the last time the character profile was updated.

They've played more than most people, but still think they're entitled to complain.

I hate that we can have a story like we've got in Endwalker and people still wont learn the lessons from it.