request for Exp reduce

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

it's rather pathetic that people would want to come into a multiplayer game and not group up to learn how to play their classes. if you want the easy way completion there are plenty of rpg's you can use cheat codes and get there.

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bwahahahaha!

special needs much?


it's not like the game is complex

but if it's too complex for you go play Hello Kitty's Island Adventure

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Originally Posted by Ilean

bwahahahaha!

special needs much?


it's not like the game is complex

but if it's too complex for you go play Hello Kitty's Island Adventure

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who said it was complex? oh that's right it wasn't me, but that doesn't change the fact it's too complex for alot of the people that have power leveled up. if it wasn't too difficult for them then they could actually play their classes instead of not even knowing what abilities they have nor what they do.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

who said it was complex? oh that's right it wasn't me, but that doesn't change the fact it's too complex for alot of the people that have power leveled up. if it wasn't too difficult for them then they could actually play their classes instead of not even knowing what abilities they have nor what they do.

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Doesn't matter how someone Gains levels if they are gonna suck they will suck regardless. Everything you learn in your little 5hr parties for 2 months. I can learn in a couple hours looking it up on the web. Even on XI I knew more about jobs I never even touched then some people who leveled up the "legit" way.

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Originally Posted by Xianghua

Doesn't matter how someone Gains levels if they are gonna suck they will suck regardless. Everything you learn in your little 5hr parties for 2 months. I can learn in a couple hours looking it up on the web. Even on XI I knew more about jobs I never even touched then some people who leveled up the "legit" way.

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i never said it needed to go all the way back to what it was at release. 5 hour parties every day for 2 months may be more in line with the pace i'd like, but that i can understand others not wanting. i have no issues with that. what i have an issue with is that someone can sit on a chocobo and never even have to pull out their weapon and get rewarded for doing so. if the person is involved in the party and is actively participating then the speed would be ok to me.

even at the pace now if the people were actively using their skills and abilities all besides the slowest person could figure it out, but those people need to be active. you can read and realize don't cast a spell or tp move, but until you use those abilities you don't have the timing down to actually do it. i know alot of people that know alot about a topic, but just because they know what they are doing doesn't mean they can execute it.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

what i have an issue with is that someone can sit on a chocobo and never even have to pull out their weapon and get rewarded for doing so.

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I don't always agree with Darkstar, but this is quoted for truth.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

who said it was complex? oh that's right it wasn't me, but that doesn't change the fact it's too complex for alot of the people that have power leveled up.

what i have an issue with is that someone can sit on a chocobo and never even have to pull out their weapon and get rewarded for doing so.

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They aren't in the game for you. Leave them alone with their goals and focus on finding others that share yours.


BTW someone IS working hard for the exp the people on chocobos gain. Maybe you should go see a shrink if stuff other people do, that doesn't affect you at all, bothers you so much. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Ilean

They aren't in the game for you. Leave them alone with their goals and focus on finding others that share yours.


BTW someone IS working hard for the exp the people on chocobos gain. Maybe you should go see a shrink if stuff other people do, that doesn't affect you at all, bothers you so much. :cool:

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I believe this link is for your discussion: Power leveling is absolutely BROKEN



a quote from other thread:

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Originally Posted by indira

i have to disagree i been in normal grind partys chaining #8 with 1900+ xp never seen that in a PL pt.

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note: this thread is not about PL, not about hardcore vs casual and not about Grind Fest, please stay inside the topic

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

I got all my 50's in DoW and DoM before 1.19. Sorry. You can no longer use me as an example.

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Even WORSE. You got everything to level fifty BEFORE 1.19? And people don't see a problem with this?
Thanks for proving my point you asinine plebeians.

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Originally Posted by Ilean

They aren't in the game for you. Leave them alone with their goals and focus on finding others that share yours.


BTW someone IS working hard for the exp the people on chocobos gain. Maybe you should go see a shrink if stuff other people do, that doesn't affect you at all, bothers you so much. :cool:

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when they get in my party and is horrible at their job it does affect my gameplay. if forces me to kick them from my party and take the time to blacklist them. i don't have time to waist teaching a 50 how to play their job and what abilities they should be using. if they don't know their job i have no time to deal with them.

if i have to play in a game with them, where i may wind up with them in a party with me, then IT DOES EFFECT ME.

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

Even WORSE. You got everything to level fifty BEFORE 1.19? And people don't see a problem with this?
Thanks for proving my point you asinine plebeians.

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

when they get in my party and is horrible at their job it does affect my gameplay. if forces me to kick them from my party and take the time to blacklist them. i don't have time to waist teaching a 50 how to play their job and what abilities they should be using. if they don't know their job i have no time to deal with them.

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You must really suck at the game too if you don't have a LS with dependable people to play with.

Stop trying to change the game just because you fail.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

when they get in my party and is horrible at their job it does affect my gameplay. if forces me to kick them from my party and take the time to blacklist them. i don't have time to waist teaching a 50 how to play their job and what abilities they should be using. if they don't know their job i have no time to deal with them.

if i have to play in a game with them, where i may wind up with them in a party with me, then IT DOES EFFECT ME.

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Well then your blacklist is going to fill up quickly after 1.20 as the entire playerbase will have no idea how to play their class.

Tell me this, how is a player who leveled quickly any different from someone who leveled slowly since launch just to have all their abilities stripped away and replaced? How is anyone going to be up to you standard?

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Well then your blacklist is going to fill up quickly after 1.20 as the entire playerbase will have no idea how to play their class.

Tell me this, how is a player who leveled quickly any different from someone who leveled slowly since launch just to have all their abilities stripped away and replaced? How is anyone going to be up to you standard?

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there's a difference between everyone being on equal footing and learning a new system compared to a game being out over a year and some people with multiple 50's don't even understand the basics. yes, the abilities will change, but the basics will remain the same.

example: farming with thm the best is every 3 minutes i can use shadowsear or cast a double shadowsear every 5 minutes. that will be changed, but the method of taking down mobs will not change. i would believe someone that's been finding the best setup for a year will have a distinct advantage over someone that never got off their chocobo nor attacked a mob.

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Originally Posted by Ilean

Wow, so many myths of PL. So many one sided views on an issue that isn't really an issue because people who PL don't affect people who don't PL at all, other than inside their little intolerant minds.


I am with you on point 3, but they would need to make said quests awesome both in gameplay and story instead of crap like that GC chocobo quest. Yes, that means the quests themselves need to be real content instead of retarded boring legwork.

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1) I have to assume by your first comment that you have never had a PL group in any game dominate or steal a spawning area from you and a party you were in or that you have never been MPKed by a PL or a Beastmaster in FFXI. I also have to assume that you are concluding that a level 10 Marauder is the same and capable of the same as a level 50 Marauder. PLs and people being PLed always affect others. They dominate camps used by people who party at those locations. They create a group of people who start doing end game material who have to be trained by others to perform the tasks required to complete said content because they are not really all that sure as to what they should be doing to start with. They also affect the economy by bypassing the normal buying and selling of lower end equipment, thus the reason why most Wards only have high end equipment. Not to mention they are normally not ready to fully equip that PLed class because they are too busy going from 10-50 in a few days and have no other means of generating gil. The list goes on and on...I will not bore you more since you don't agree.

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Originally Posted by Amage

Ok to poke holes in this epic story of one mans journey

1 Yeah i kinda agree here

2) I absolutely lawl meeting people really , No one other then JP use the weird ass party search system , now any time and every post i have seen only Linkshells make parties to grind out levels to make their stronger Now I have all ready meet my Linkshell members I dont think every party we make we meet again . So this is what i know meeting people i call shenanigans

3) your High

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1) I was not seeking your approval but hey thanks for the thumbs up :).

2) Two things. If you lawl at meeting people why are you recruiting for an LS? If you lawl at meeting people then why are you playing an MMO?

3) No I am not but I would prefer to be high than drunk like you for 3 reasons. a) Fewer dents in my car b) No headache c) I don't wake up in a pool of my own vomit or piss.

There are far better ways to simulate PLing that are fun for everyone involved and will teach people to play the game and take a little pride in what they are playing regardless of what class they are playing at the time. I would much rather see a level synching system than have a PL experience. At least people actually have to participate in order to level then.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

there's a difference between everyone being on equal footing and learning a new system compared to a game being out over a year and some people with multiple 50's don't even understand the basics. yes, the abilities will change, but the basics will remain the same.

example: farming with thm the best is every 3 minutes i can use shadowsear or cast a double shadowsear every 5 minutes. that will be changed, but the method of taking down mobs will not change. i would believe someone that's been finding the best setup for a year will have a distinct advantage over someone that never got off their chocobo nor attacked a mob.

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Each patch up to 2.0 will bring with it fundamental changes to the way the game is played. But won't change is good players are good and bad players are bad regardless of how they leveled. This holds true because we're playing the same roles that have been in RPGs since the advent of RPGs.

Tanks tank, DDs deal damage, healers heal. How that's done specific to XIV has nothing to do with ever being in a party and everything to do with reading the description on your abilities.

We'll all be in the same boat till 2.0, and it will be players capable of doing a little research that come out on top regardless of how long it took them to level.

While I can't agree with the OP, I've tagged the thread with dev1132 relating to adjustments in experience points (not related to quests). Unless I'm horribly mistaken.

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

While I can't agree with the OP, I've tagged the thread with dev1132 relating to adjustments in experience points (not related to quests). Unless I'm horribly mistaken.

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no, you dont have to agree with my point if it is different from your point of view, and thank for tag it

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Originally Posted by Qeepel

Hello everyone,

I'd like to remind everyone to please refrain from making inflammatory comments towards others and off topic discussions. Such language and actions are considered a violation of the forum guidelines, and can result in the termination of your account.

Thank you.

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To be honest, I think this thread just needs to be closed. The comments have, as you pointed out, gone extremely off-topic - people are trying to address two different issues here in one thread, which leads to a lot of white noise, and I don't think people are willing to take that other issue to another thread (that is already available).

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Originally Posted by Mortikhan

1) I have to assume by your first comment that you have never had a PL group in any game dominate or steal a spawning area from you and a party you were in or that you have never been MPKed by a PL or a Beastmaster in FFXI. I also have to assume that you are concluding that a level 10 Marauder is the same and capable of the same as a level 50 Marauder. PLs and people being PLed always affect others. They dominate camps used by people who party at those locations. They create a group of people who start doing end game material who have to be trained by others to perform the tasks required to complete said content because they are not really all that sure as to what they should be doing to start with. They also affect the economy by bypassing the normal buying and selling of lower end equipment, thus the reason why most Wards only have high end equipment. Not to mention they are normally not ready to fully equip that PLed class because they are too busy going from 10-50 in a few days and have no other means of generating gil. The list goes on and on...I will not bore you more since you don't agree.

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No, I agree that the ability to reach 50 quick does affect the world.

Just it simply does, it's not positive or negative.

PL groups steal camps? PFFT Give me a break! They are only as likely to do it as non PL groups. Douches will be douches, PL or not.

How about this? PL groups actually help you with leveling because they get much more exp than a regular group so they move out from camp quicker.

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Originally Posted by Ilean

No, I agree that the ability to reach 50 quick does affect the world.

Just it simply does, it's not positive or negative.

PL groups steal camps? PFFT Give me a break! They are only as likely to do it as non PL groups. Douches will be douches, PL or not.

How about this? PL groups actually help you with leveling because they get much more exp than a regular group so they move out from camp quicker.

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Oh it can be seen either way and I am all for it but as it is now...nah. Like I said earlier I would rather see a level synching system where all players are involved and helping rather than a stand around and collect XP party.

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Originally Posted by Mortikhan

Oh it can be seen either way and I am all for it but as it is now...nah. Like I said earlier I would rather see a level synching system where all players are involved and helping rather than a stand around and collect XP party.

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I don't think people PL so they can get exp for doing nothing, but so they level up much faster and have to spend less time grinding.

PL is the closest to a golden mean between people who like the grind and those who hate it.

It's not perfect, IMO perfect would be having separate servers for people who don't enjoy timesinks and those who do. Since we don't have that, PL is good enough if only you are willing to tolerate people with different goals and play styles.