Big Fish and You - Patch 2.4 (speculation (or is it? :))

More than 30 mooches during during fog > heat and still no bite,
How many mooches did it take you to get a legendary bite?

Once I knew it was fog/overcast -> heat it took 3 mooches to get it. But I believe the window is only open from 10:00-19:00 so if it's fog/overcast -> heat at an earlier or later time then I think it catch anyway? Is this wrong?

Shoni weather inc!

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Originally Posted by Illyriafox

Shoni weather inc!

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nothing - not even a bite from Mahar...

2 NQ Mahars for me.

Two NQs for me too

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Originally Posted by Shantara

2 NQ Mahars for me.

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Originally Posted by Illyriafox

Two NQs for me too

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What's your Gathering guys? (mine was 400).

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Originally Posted by Huckster

What's your Gathering guys? (mine was 400).

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411 gathering, but I think it only reduces the amount of get-aways and doesn't affect the chance of getting a bite as long as you're above the minimal requirements.

had 4 mooches but no maha bite ;_;

Another Shoni window is opening. Get your asses to Witchdrop!!!

RNG too stronk! 6 total mooches....2 x HQ Saucerfish, and FOUR Mahar bites (1 NQ catch, 3 misses). More Lalafells need to be sacrificed!

Booo I missed another weather ; ;

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Originally Posted by Illyriafox

Booo I missed another weather ; ;

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There might be another one upcoming soon. Lots of clear and fair today. We'll see!

1 NQ Mahar, atleast was able to finally catch helicoprion

step 2 of the quest ~_*


has someone tried if clear/fair -> snow also works for mahar?

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

1 NQ Mahar, atleast was able to finally catch helicoprion

step 2 of the quest ~_*


has someone tried if clear/fair -> snow also works for mahar?

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I wouldn't imagine that it would work, but we can test it soon, I guess.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

1 NQ Mahar, atleast was able to finally catch helicoprion

step 2 of the quest ~_*


has someone tried if clear/fair -> snow also works for mahar?

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I'd be very surprised that angler.com didn't have that info if it was possible but if it is, that would be awesome :)

some of the fish are inacurate and I also think that 95% dont even try snow, if they read its "snowstorm only" from the first 2 or 3 which were caught

Go 0 for 60-something on Nepto bites, then catch 3 of them in one single window. Ok.....

o.O could there be a second condition involved?

I just had a talk with an other fisher and he told me that he already caught a HQ Mahar and wasnt able to use it as mooch :confused:


I've no idea whether hes right or not, but its suscpicous that it took that long to figure out that the bait is something that simple and noone caught shoni earlier. I'm 99% sure there were plenty of ppl who caught HQ mahars before that japanese screenshot showed up, but noone noticed it?

Maybe there's also a time condition for Shoni? I always thought that the game would allow you to mooch even if the conditions for the moochable fish are not met and the failure would happen only at bite time.

Check ff14angler, their app has registered a successful Shoni catch after the Mahar mooch. Also, looking at Mahar's records list it seems like there were multiple HQ catches as the size differences between the first and the fifth places are insignificant:

1 195.7 unsung angler
2 194.6 発酵なまもの
3 194.0 unsung angler
4 193.7 テティス@Ramuh
5 192.6 はまち

how does ff14 angler work? I always expected a sinlge guy updating times etc whenever he figured something out, or based on facts which other ppl told him

A lot of the information is cloud sourced (such as the weather). But Shoni could also be time based. The guy in the pic caught his at 13:25 apparently so I'm not sure if it's possible but maybe it's only moochable during a certain window? Or maybe the other person who caught it did so just as blizzard weather ended and it's not moochable outside blizzard weather? Either way it's sounding more difficult and this weather is so rare it's a bit of a nightmare :)

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

how does ff14 angler work? I always expected a sinlge guy updating times etc whenever he figured something out, or based on facts which other ppl told him

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They have a client app which automatically gathers info on location, time, weather, bait etc every time the fish is caught and sends it to the server. I've never used it myself and this info is taken from the description page on the site. It's a 3rd party tool and using it is technically against ToS, so I would suggest not to discuss it here. :)

LOL:
http://i58.tinypic.com/o72ccg.png

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Originally Posted by Huckster

LOL:
http://i58.tinypic.com/o72ccg.png

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This is like 90% of my experience there lol.

Shonisaurus window....GO!!

i wonder, since it is extended blizzard, does the precondition Fair remain? Which would make triple blizzard a very long Fair->Blizzard window.

I'm mainly thinking about this, since someone has comented here he had a helicoprion bite during Heatwave->Heatwave, which could have been because of what I just tried to mention.


Edit: !!!! Mooched HQ Mahar and it got away ;_; 421 / 329 ET 10:52 pm

omg lucky you ; ; but also bad luck ; ;

only one NQ mahar so far...

Yeah, I caught 4 NQ Mahar that window, and the guy next to me caught an HQ and missed on Shoni as well. =(

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Originally Posted by eremonxi

I'm mainly thinking about this, since someone has comented here he had a helicoprion bite during Heatwave->Heatwave, which could have been because of what I just tried to mention.

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I have a feeling that the "missed Helicoprion" bite in double heat was most likely a missed Magic Carpet, and not a Helicoprion.

Shoni weather inc again!

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Originally Posted by Illyriafox

Shoni weather inc again!

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GO GO GO GO GO!!!!!

Mooch #1 lined up!

EDIT: 2 NQs...

2 NQ mahar within the first ET hour of fishing and then, like the last two windows, HQ cloud cutters just completely dried up :/

Yeah, this window was REALLY, REALLY bad. I only got 1 HQ cloud cutter the whole window. 1 HQ cloud cutter >> 1 NQ Mahar. QQ

5 HQ Cloud Cutter -> 0 Mahar

This fish is horrible lol. Sending gl vibes to you guys for next window :3

I woke up right before the window started, but got nothing out of it other than the usual 2 NQ Mahars.

Another coming up in an hour-ish :)

good luck fellow Shoni fishers , last one for me for Of Dragons Deep on Gilgamesh (server 1st pretty sure since Iknow Uknow quit [or so I was told] )