Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

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Originally Posted by Sammieyk

17 Deepen Blue, 15 Deepen Red, 18 Lighten Green = Regal Purple!

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...54886042_o.jpg

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Aaaa so jealous. Looks like we can do drastic jumps in one go then?

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Originally Posted by Sammieyk

17 Deepen Blue, 15 Deepen Red, 18 Lighten Green = Regal Purple!

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...54886042_o.jpg

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Please show a screenshot! :D

From reddit:

"Just been given word that someone in my FC fed his boko 28 doman plums and got Celeste Green"

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ogress/cjwoftv

x7 O'Ghomoro Berry -> Ul Brown

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Originally Posted by Sammieyk

17 Deepen Blue, 15 Deepen Red, 18 Lighten Green = Regal Purple!

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...54886042_o.jpg

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That's actuallly very close to the color I wanted. Just need to get the fruits now.

O'ghomoro Berries x8 = http://i.imgur.com/xgEHhkm.png

Edit: Oop. Eight berries. Not eleven. Miscounted what I had left in my inventory.

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Originally Posted by Sammieyk

17 Deepen Blue, 15 Deepen Red, 18 Lighten Green = Regal Purple!

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...54886042_o.jpg

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Yay!! that is sooo pretty! I want a purple Chocobo, I fed a similar built, I did x14 of all three of those, so I'm hoping I get close to that :D I'm aiming for purple as well. Was going for Grape, but I'd take that Regal one too! Love it! <3

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Originally Posted by Sammieyk

17 Deepen Blue, 15 Deepen Red, 18 Lighten Green = Regal Purple!

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...54886042_o.jpg

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Oh wow, that's a pretty drastic change. I guess this color thing won't take so long after all except for getting the whole color theory thing down pat. Good to know!

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Originally Posted by Rorichan

From reddit:

"Just been given word that someone in my FC fed his boko 28 doman plums and got Celeste Green"

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ogress/cjwoftv

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Welp, there goes my theory into the dustbin, damn, I liked that one.

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Originally Posted by Endemerrin

O'ghomoro Berries x11 = http://i.imgur.com/xgEHhkm.png

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That looks like it's getting close to white there... Maybe a screenshot of the actual bird rather than just the UI?

I wanna try n get mine Hunter Green. So far fed 5 lighten red. (Plums is it?) I'll share results after the 6 hours.

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Originally Posted by Findel

That looks like it's getting close to white there... Maybe a screenshot of the actual bird rather than just the UI?

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http://i.imgur.com/I37lwcu.png

According to the scale, it was a [-36, -17, +50] change from eight O'ghomoro Berries.

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Originally Posted by Rorichan

Guess it'd be just too darned much to ask them (SE) to tell us for sure how to do it? *sigh*

I don't mind the grind, I just want to know HOW to do it so I don't waste my time.

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Where would be the pioneer fun if SE spoil all the secrets to us?

I'm gonna get in on relaying some info. I have an 1hr and 15mins left to see what color my chocobo will be. From the 6hr mark I just fed it 1 apple. But after reading this topic. And seeing people are able to keep feeding the chocobo anytime during that 6hr period to get varied results, I decided to buy 3 pineapples and 9 more apples for a total of 10 apple.

I am trying to go for the Blood Red color, just for this test and what everyone has posted.. especially that color chart that related to the game:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...pli=1&sle=true

Now I wait to see if it comes close to that mark. :)

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Originally Posted by Endemerrin

According to the scale, it was a [-36, -17, +50] change from eight O'ghomoro Berries.

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Gorgeous bird there. And yes, getting close to white. Thanks for the screen!

Going to try for Dalamud Red..

In case anyones interested I created an artist interpretation of every possible coloured chocobo. Might be of use to anyone on the fence of what colour to aim for. www.superslothdesign.com/chocobo/

spent 22 apples and 3 berries to get Sunset Orange
http://i.imgur.com/Por2WUy.jpg?1

I think a huge issue here is that the "lighten/deepen" red/green/blue implies different color mechanics based on how you read it (granted, it implies you'll know which way to read it). For instance, look at the person who used doman plums to go from desert yellow to celeste green. English says doman plum lightens red, other languages say it adds light blue. Isn't that the same thing, if you read correctly? Lift red from yellow in RGB and where do you go? Towards green. Technically it means the same thing, but the wording here is terrible. Replace "lightens" with "lifts" and getting black or white really could be as easy as darkening or lifting the RGB values to move around this chart. I just don't understand if the RGB uses additive or subtractive principles...how do you get to black or white?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hBmXqfUxHd...heel_analo.jpg

So how do you get black? Lighten all hues or darken?

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Originally Posted by Madoka_kaname

spent 22 apples and 3 berries to get Sunset Orange
http://i.imgur.com/Por2WUy.jpg?1

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That blends so well with the beak and with the dark tips looking red it reminds me of a phoenix.

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Originally Posted by Black91CRX

So how do you get black? Lighten all hues or darken?

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I'd assume darken, and lighten all is white.

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Originally Posted by Kaelah

I'd assume darken, and lighten all is white.

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Are there going to be more choices of black than Soot Black? I'd not like for my bird to look like he fell down a chimney.

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Originally Posted by Desidious

Are there going to be more choices of black than Soot Black? I'd not like for my bird to look like he fell down a chimney.

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In theory yes, it seems that all the current dyes are the colours chocobos can be.

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Originally Posted by Hulan

IF our current theory is correct, you want:

5 O'Ghomoro Berries
17 Cieldalaes Pineapples

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What is this theory? I must have missed something. I would like to get goobue grey.

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Originally Posted by Kaelah

I'd assume darken, and lighten all is white.

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In theory other way around. Black is the absense of colour and would be completely zeroed out on RGB scale. This is based around light rather then actual artistic colour theory. The gobbiebag brown colour came from lower the original RG value and increasing the B value to a point where they were closer to even.

Ok, so it seems like feeding it tons and tons of fruits dyes it faster.

My question then is this... lets say you have the orange chocobo and then feed it 3 of one color... will the color shift from orange or start over as if you never fed it before?

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Originally Posted by Erendis

What is this theory? I must have missed something. I would like to get goobue grey.

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Don't worry about it, it was made and discarded 10 and 3 pages ago respectively. I think we're still grasping at straws here. At first it seemed like "lighten" meant +Color, and "Deepen" meant -Color, then it seemed like "lighten" meant +Color and "Deepen" meant -otherColors, now it seems like some weird combination of both. I think it's safe to say, though, that if you Lighten Color X, that color's value will go up in the RGB scale, at the very least.

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Originally Posted by Kaelah

I'd assume darken, and lighten all is white.

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It's actually not that. The correct wording is "deepen", not "darken".
It changes everything around.

The use of "lighten" and "deepen" respectively means "less" and "more" or the chosen color.
(The justification is: if you make something "lighter", you're reducing its mass. "Deepen" it can mean that you make it more 'strong', increasing its mass. At least, this is how I see it.)

So, in order to get a dark/black chocobo, you need to reduce the amount of red and green first, meaning that you would need a combination of a few Doman Plum (lighten red) and some Valfruit Seeds (lighten green).

I can't give any amount nor I can guarantee what I'm saying because the numbers seems to be all over the place. But I would go something like 4 Doman Plum and 3 Valfruit Seeds.

It won't be pure black, but it should get the values of red and green closer to the blue.

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Originally Posted by MikefriedSpes

I just fed my bird 80 O'Ghomoro Berries. I want results.

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I added 29 more to mine (for roughly 30), if there's a cap for blue we'll see where it goes.

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Originally Posted by Hulan

I think it's safe to say, though, that if you Lighten Color X, that color's value will go up in the RGB scale, at the very least.

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It doesn't, though. Some one fed 28 Doman Plums (which lighten red), and it's value went down by about 50, where as green stayed roughly the same and blue shot up by precisely 100. In that regard, the plums do in fact lighten that color they're supposed to, not deepen it.

It seems to be working out like this:

deepens red = increases red
lightens red = increases cyan

deepens green = increases green
lightens green = increases magenta

deepens blue = increases blue
lightens blue = increases yellow

Regal Purple was produced by deepening red and blue and lightening green aka +red +blue +magenta
Celeste Green was produced by lightening red aka +cyan

These results all changing my test!

Currently At
1 Mamook Pear
18 Apples
2 Plums
10 Pineapples
13 Valfruit

Gave mine 30 darken blue and 10 darken green and got Othard Blue. https://imageshack.com/i/paJdSC6Dp

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Originally Posted by liev

It seems to be working out like this:

deepens red = increases red
lightens red = increases cyan

deepens green = increases green
lightens green = increases magenta

deepens blue = increases blue
lightens blue = increases yellow

Regal Purple was produced by deepening red and blue and lightening green aka +red +blue +magenta
Celeste Green was produced by lightening red aka +cyan

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See, this makes the most sense, and is what I was playing with before (though I kept it in the RGB form), but there are a few examples that just don't match, or even close to match. It seems to work so well for most things, but a few outliers keep throwing me off.

It's likely that saturation could be important. The fact that we have 2 types of fruits for each let me think that way. It's just a supposition but maybe Lightnen fruit lowers the saturation while Deepen increases it.

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Originally Posted by mbncd

If it's truly RGB style, you'll want to cap all 3, not remove all 3. Removing all colours makes black. 255 of all colours makes white.

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Im sry if im mistaken but i think you have this backwards. They absence of color is white. The mixture of all colors together should produce black. I could be wrong but from what i remember in art class haha...

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Originally Posted by Bruiser_Cruiser

Im sry if im mistaken but i think you have this backwards. They absence of color is white. The mixture of all colors together should produce black. I could be wrong but from what i remember in art class haha...

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You must have skipped the physics class, lol.

So, how to I set the colors to 0? I want a black chocobo. ._.

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Originally Posted by Bruiser_Cruiser

Im sry if im mistaken but i think you have this backwards. They absence of color is white. The mixture of all colors together should produce black. I could be wrong but from what i remember in art class haha...

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This is light colour theory... It's the other way around. If it were based on red blue and yellow it would work that way

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Originally Posted by Emoclew

Gave mine 30 darken blue and 10 darken green and got Othard Blue. https://imageshack.com/i/paJdSC6Dp

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Ooooo! That's very very nice!