Summoner Question: Where should I spend my Myth tomes first?

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Originally Posted by Kevee

You won't miss in AK, or anything but Coil, so I don't know why he said that.

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I didn't know for sure, I was going out on a limb. I knew of the accuracy reqs for Coil, but concede this point, I was in error.

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Originally Posted by Kevee

..More like.

Ruin/Ruin II/Miasma/Miasma II/Thunder/Fester have been missing, and your pet is probably at something stupid like 60-70% accuracy.

Newsflash: You got carried. Turn 1 and 2 aren't hard, and neither are a real DPS check. Let me know when you beat turn 4, the first real DPS/competency check.

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Whatever, I am just saying what I saw. :) I am happy and that is all that matters.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

Whatever, I am just saying what I saw. :) I am happy and that is all that matters.

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yeah, you mentioned happiness like three times now. (cause it's very relevant, your happiness level I mean)

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Originally Posted by T0rin

Individual determination, crit chance, base stat, etc. does NOT affect LB damage. The only thing that matters in LB damage is the average weapon damage of your party. If you have a lesser weapon (Relic vs Relic +1), you are lowering your group's LB damage.

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You're not reading it right. I'm speaking in general terms. Nowhere did I mention Limit Breaks. I only responded to that because apparently everyone thinks that the final damage output is contingent upon the weapon. It's not. Your statistics modify weapon damage therefore if you get a higher increase in Int/Det then you're going to modify for higher weapon damage than 3 on the Relic.

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Originally Posted by Zholi

I don't necessarily agree that some of those pieces are a waste.

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They're not. Those pieces are designed to work as a whole. If you scroll back some pages, you'll see I outlined AF2 stats altogether. You get 91 Acc for wearing AF2 compared to 59 on DL. Just wear the damn set as it's better and stop doing this individual piece BS. It's certainly not getting Kevee anywhere now that she's talking about switching equipment sets just to summon pets LOL!

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Originally Posted by coffeerox

You're not reading it right. I'm speaking in general terms. Nowhere did I mention Limit Breaks. I only responded to that because apparently everyone thinks that the final damage output is contingent upon the weapon. It's not. Your statistics modify weapon damage therefore if you get a higher increase in Int/Det then you're going to modify for higher weapon damage than 3 on the Relic.

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If. Except for 900 Myth, you're not.

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Originally Posted by T0rin

Going for AF2 Head+Body+Gloves will cause you to lose 26 accuracy. This can be a HUGE loss of damage in higher level dungeons

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I don't know how many times I can say that I'm not planning on going into Coil anytime soon. The Head/Body/Hands will actually cause me to perform better in AK

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So, the problem with this scenario is that it pidgeonholes you into taking AF2 hands+boots (two of the three weakest upgrades), because you can't take head (which is a stronger upgrade) because you aren't replacing the body.

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Whoops I meant that I was taking the Head/Body/Gloves

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If you go that route and supplement it with a Vanya hat of casting, (since we're spending millions of gil one way or another, right?) you end up gaining 12 int, 45 crit, 30 det, 3 wep dmg and losing 26 spell speed and 27 accuracy.

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If I were to buy Relic +1, yes that is what I would do. I had already written up something about that but didn't publish it b/c it wasn't immediately relevant (and had to keep post count down)

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There are good routes to take in upgrading a SMN from DL, but what you advocate for is full of misinformation and bad assumptions.

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No, it's not, and you're wrong. You're advocating not using the entire AF2 set even when I proved the AF2 set as a whole is better than DL (really the only other set we have at the moment). You keep talking about losing accuracy but using the whole set gives you 91 versus 59.

*facepalm*

A little off topic, and kinda depends on preferences. Would you upgrade relic+1 for several jobs before getting any AF2 pieces? Since allagan weapons do not come by readily?