so run out of gil...now what?

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Originally Posted by VanillaH

No, he chosen a DoW/DoM class and don't want to switch to other classes to make money. simple. No everybody likes to hop classes. I gonna stay SCH and will not level any other class beyond skills that i need for SCH for example, it's just way i want to play.

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This is an interesting view. And its not really compatible with how FFXIV operates. The ability to insta-switch between classes is there for a reason. Its beneficial for you and others to have multiple classes leveled.

The view that "I"m ONE job ONLY" seems to stem from other MMOs that don't have this pretty neat feature. The game really is more fun if you're trying other classes and using that feature in the game. Don't limit yourself to one class just because that's what other MMO's have trained you to do.

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Originally Posted by Nikki

I have played a lot of MMOS and this one is worse in terms of gil generation especially if you are playing a combat class. Awful really. God knows how many people are going to quit at 50 who have no interest in gathering and crafting.

Where is the balance?

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i will be one of those people, i like thi sgame but im not bothered if i play it or not, im not looking to do anything i dont enjoy, its a game not work

try doing leves

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Originally Posted by makii

gathering
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Everyone is gathering now for their own mats, how on earth do you make money from that? Darksteel? W/e botonists can get at max level?

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Originally Posted by VanillaH

Game must have a balance between crafting/gathering and other ways to make money. Not everybody likes to craft/gather. Financial reward for non craters is essential to allow people to continue doing that they like not resorting to crafting/gathering. it doesn't matter what you are doing. and yes it's a bad game design when crafters forced to do fetch quests to be able to unlock all of the game's features, good MMO doesn't force people, it just presents content and freedom to do it as well as balanced rewards for doing it. Daily quests are coming perhaps they will fix the issue.

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Let me break down my problems with this. XIV is completly designed around the ability to switch your classes. Without a financial focus, crafting and gathering jobs have even less point than they do now. You can use them to make money and repair your own gear for much cheaper. It's how you make money in this game. You have other options like leves and selling the crap you get from monsters, but this is how you make money. If you don't want to make money this way, you're not going to get much.

Try thinking of it this way: You get money from battle leves and quests, FATE battles, selling enemy drops, and selling materia you can make from soulbound items.
But. You can get more money from gathering and crafting classes, as those are the jobs that give you more opportunity to be financially active.

There's no actual issue beyond your inability to peruse heavy financial gain because you find it personally uninteresting. I'm sure they'll provide more opportunities in the future for battle classes, but the big bucks are in crafting so it's not totally worthless.

Creating an economy for an entire MMO is pretty hard work. and adding new thing to it have to be thoroughly tested so they don't imbalance it further. I'm sure SE is working around the clock on how to make sure they can fix it. It wont be immediate, but changes will probably happen eventually. They Easiest fix would be if they can bump up the prices for selling high grade armor, weapons, and materials. Another good fix is to put Gil in treasure chests to split with the players. Humanoid mobs could drop pocket change aswell.

Do quests and choose Allagan Gold Pieces.

Bit surprised that the answer most people say is do a discipline of land job.

While i do agree people from dol or crafters should rule the market, dow should be able to get ways to pay for teleport and repairs
Some people play mmorpg for fighting aspect and should be able to farm monsters to make a bit of money without dol
Just my 2cents

I know it's not much but let's say you're a miner like me, i get about 2 stacks of gold ore a day, not counting that i'm farming cobalt when the gold isn't spawned.
That's about 150k just on gold and i make about 300k on cobalt a day, and no i'm not online all day so just in one day you could make enough for a long time.

The OP has a point, to a degree, and even if he may not be exploiting all of his avenues to get gil.

Someone who simply doesn't like crafting or gathering, and wants to focus on activities as a DoW/DoM, should be able to do so and not go completely broke. In other words, they should be able to make enough gil to cover repairs and basic consumables and have a small bit left over. Their funds should be trending positive over time, albeit at a very slow rate. In my opinion, a casual player who only is interested in combat should be able to functionally enjoy the game their way, as long as they avoid luxury/vanity gilsinks.

Players who invest a lot of time into DoH/DoL, on the other hand, should be making money at a significantly faster rate than those who don't. This isn't up for debate.