Can we talk about Cure III?

As a Scholar, I'd kill for an ability like Cure III. There are so many times I need cures just on the melee dps, and having to stop healing to run there, risk taking damage myself, cast Succor twice and run back and resume curing sucks hard, and wastes so much time.

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Originally Posted by peaches

As a Scholar, I'd kill for an ability like Cure III. There are so many times I need cures just on the melee dps, and having to stop healing to run there, risk taking damage myself, cast Succor twice and run back and resume curing sucks hard, and wastes so much time.

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Its really not as good as you make it out to be if you consider the range. I'll stick to succor/medica. Tried using Cure 3 on hydra and getting the tanks to stack, didnt work as well as I thought it would. Maybe for garuda hurricane phase. I don't use my Overcure procs much except when the tank takes a huge hit and overcure happens to be up.

I definitely don't know the specifics of the spell, but just the general description sounds good. So many times I've been stuck somewhere and needed to AoE heal everyone, but couldn't. I definitely know how underwhelming procs are though, 20% for a free succor... I could blow through 6 stacks of Aetherflow without getting a free one, and its not the best proc to begin with. I think procs in general need a bit of a re-work, but that's another topic.

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Originally Posted by soshifood

The game is still new. What kind of strategies do you think seasoned/hardcore players will come up with in the future? What I'm saying right now is that Cure III opens up possibilities and has potential to be a useful skill (though Overcure would be less useful with higher crit rates).

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Well, good. Then I look forward to your someday maybe future where Cure III is something worth using. Until that magical day, it's poo.

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Originally Posted by soshifood

Wow, being downright nitpicky there. Benediction is a 300 sec cooldown (insanely long), and plenty of things can bring a tank's hp low. Titan's Mountain Buster and the vulnerability debuffs from BC bosses are a few things to name. Cure III saves DPSes without wasting too much timethanks to the ensured crit. It means I can continue spamming Cure II to keep a tank alive while having the one injured melee DPS back to full health. It's a nifty skill, particularly in Titan HM and Bahamut's Coil and I say this from experience. Or is this the part where you tell me that I'm horrible WHM? Because when you say, "tank shouldn't be dropping that low anyway", that's what I assume you're saying.

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The problem is that the guaranteed chance to crit isn't guaranteed to proc, and thus isn't guaranteed to be up when you need it. Yeah, when it is up, and people are in the right spots, and they need the healing, super. That's not very common given the really small radius and small proc chance; even if you are planning around it it might not hit everyone or might not be a crit, and in the kind of fights where the throughput the spell is capable of would be useful, missing people is not an option.

The way I wish it were designed would be either with a somewhat larger radius (still not like Medica though), or with the same setup it is now but say 50 more potency than Cure 2, so it's at least guaranteed better throughput even if the crit buff isn't up. Right now, since I can't be sure it'll hit anyone but who I target, it's essentially a more expensive Cure 2 with less throughput when the buff isn't up, and potentially less throughput when the buff is up (since Cure 2 could crit anyway), which is something I consider risky.

The range makes it kind of garbage for the AoE, I find using it super situationally is the best. Get proc tell melee dps to stack on x but that rarely happens Medica 2 + Cure 2 would be a better use of mp.

I only cast it if I happen to get a proc. But the biggest problem with the spell is range. Because of its pitiful range, it just ends up being a more expensive, less effective Cure II. If it had a wider range, it would probably warrant more situational use.

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Originally Posted by Menae

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The idea of the Overcure trait isn't to hit multiple people. That's massive emnity generation right there. 15% of the time you're casting Cure II, a Cure III crit will be available for 15 seconds. The probability of being able to use Overcure is much higher due to this. And it will be a crit as long as you cast while the buff is on. I'm not even talking about relying on this instead of Medica. Cure III crit is a good alternative to Cure II if someone needs a lot of healing asap, which was the whole point of my argument.

Most people don't even bother to put this ability on their hotbar cuz its so bad...

Please increase the PBAoE range...