Excuses & Daily Updates

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

And there's also the fact Yoshida said he'll never do a wipe. So if they add something they need to make sure it's not exploitable.

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There is always test servers.

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Originally Posted by Paksenarrion

Yeah a couple of threads I've been in, seems like your opinion is only valid if you have at least ONE rnk 50. My highest is 30... simply because I couldn't log on and do the same leves over and over again. Even if you go to another city, you still get stuck with the same ones. (If you've done them there before).

So I'm taking a break from FFXIV. Playing Rift to pass time while I wait for FFXIV. Whatever time I've got left, I spend here at the forum. Simply to see what the community is saying and what's going on.

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That's elitism, which is found in every MMO community, I just ignore people who speak like that much like high level mages will say "protect and shell is broken, you aren't a 50 mage so you don't know!" yet others can see it has some effect even as a subskill on Marauder.

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Originally Posted by Grimm

There is always test servers.

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Which we don't have ATM

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

Which we don't have ATM

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I think we can both agree that FFXIV needs them more than FFXI.

Did anyone here actually participate during the beta? Cause I heard a lot of players were upset due to the team not listening to the players. (Even though it was beta... and that's sort of the whole point?).

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Originally Posted by Grimm

I think we can both agree that FFXIV needs them more than FFXI.

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Pretty much yeah, would make a good suggestion since I'm sure a lot of people would agree.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

That's elitism, which is found in every MMO community, I just ignore people who speak like that much like high level mages will say "protect and shell is broken, you aren't a 50 mage so you don't know!" yet others can see it has some effect even as a subskill on Marauder.

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Yeah i try to ignore it. Then I feel sad because I realize... I'm not max level. =( Lol.:(

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Originally Posted by Grimm

There is always test servers.

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Test servers never get enough traffic to be a surefire vaccine against exploits and problems. That applies basically every game.
Most people don't really "waste" time on test servers when they can be playing on the live ones and work on their character progression.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

That's elitism, which is found in every MMO community, I just ignore people who speak like that much like high level mages will say "protect and shell is broken, you aren't a 50 mage so you don't know!" yet others can see it has some effect even as a subskill on Marauder.

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It's not a matter of elitism. And it's not even a matter of getting to 50. People that talk a lot about things that they simply didn't experience first hand don't hold much credibility.
Even worse, people that didn't play the game for months don't have many tools to actually judge the current state of the game.

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Originally Posted by Paksenarrion

Did anyone here actually participate during the beta? Cause I heard a lot of players were upset due to the team not listening to the players. (Even though it was beta... and that's sort of the whole point?).

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I did and it's not that the team didn't listen to the players, but more of the players not actually giving proper feedback. Let me just give you some examples of the crap that I saw "Battlesystem is broken. Please fix it." "BRs are stupid. Make them back into skillchains." Essentially, every other bug report was a "QQ dis game sux!" report...

Edited the OP this thread is officially about test servers.