Back Paddling is horrible.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

And you seem to be illiterate.

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Says the person who writes "back paddling"....
english isnt my mother tongue maybe you try out yourself to write in a foreign language first and lets see then. this is a forum and i dont care.

but that shows that you have no arguments concerning this. you can "back pedal" in real life also.


the flames about "back pedaling" is just so ridiculous. you can say that you dont like the animation. but what the hell.. you can walk backwards ... even micheal jackson did, with his moonwalk lol.


http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia...2!Moonwalk.gif

i cant understand this discussion

The alpha controls don't just look awkward...

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

Says the person who writes "back paddling"....
english isnt my mother tongue maybe you try out yourself to write in a foreign language first and lets see then. this is a forum and i dont care.

but that shows that you have no arguments concerning this. you can "back pedal" in real life also.

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No, see. This is where you and I differ. I didn't say you were illiterate because of how you phrased something.
I said you were illiterate because you disregarded everything that was written in the OP, and in the whole thread for that matter, and made some bullshit post.

In no moment of this thread I said back pedaling shouldn't be a part of the game.

So I recommend you actually read before commenting. Or don't comment.

Also if you'd have bothered reading you'd know english isn't my native language either. So giving me shit about "paddling" and then hiding behind "I don't speak good english!" is pretty retarded.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

No, see. This is where you and I differ. I didn't say you were illiterate because of how you phrased something.
I said you were illiterate because you disregarded everything that was written in the OP, and in the whole thread for that matter, and made some bullshit post.

In no moment of this thread I said back pedaling shouldn't be a part of the game.

So I recommend you actually read before commenting. Or don't comment.

Also if you'd have bothered reading you'd know english isn't my native language either. So giving me shit about "paddling" and then hiding behind "I don't speak good english!" is pretty retarded.

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well i dont read it anymore, because its the thousandth thread about "back pedaling" or character animations..

as i think back pedaling belongs to the game.. because its a natural movement..

it belongs to sword fights, badminton or whatever sport exists..

Back pedal

and not even in sports ...
and i think the game controls can work fine with it.
because its different to 1.0. (where you can just walk backwards when you are aiming at a target) doesnt mean it has to be much more bad.

i dont understand why people want to stick to the awful 1.0.
let it go.


and i am really sure, that when you will actually play it that you wont think that these are bad controls.. i know MANY MMorpgs who work like that when it comes to movement.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

as i think back pedaling belongs to the game.. because its a natural movement..

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Yeah I live my life with Resident Evil style tank controls in all situations amiright?

Though seriously while not as bad as resident evils "Turn to move" not being able to have free reign on your movement with just the keyboard is silly (It's arguable you can do workaround with the mouse) but to not give the option for keyboard users is as bad as saying they are releasing the game on PS3 without considering how a controler will work with the UI and movement in general (Free movement is much more suited to the controler as well.)

Having locked movement while locked onto a target is well and good (Hell XIV 1.0 and XI had it even) But it was always a snap to unlock your target and regain full control again even in combat if you deemed it. Options...for the people who screamed for them it's funny to see some of the same people fight against it when the tables turn and other people ask for them.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

In the latest Alpha trailer we can see back paddling at it's best (or worst).

http://youtu.be/_N4G854ANo0?t=3m16s

What is this backpedaling?

In 1.0 when you walked in the direction opposite to where you were facing your character would turn around.

It seems in 2.0, instead, the character remains looking at the same direction and was backwards at a lower speed. Think of it as having your target locked on a non existent object, all the time.


I really hope they introduce alternative motion settings, or something of the sort. Because slowly stepping back whenever you want to run away seem like awful movement controls.

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I remember posting about this when the first Alpha stream came out.
What a shame this might be permanent.

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Originally Posted by Volfield

I remember posting about this when the first Alpha stream came out.
What a shame this might be permanent.

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I think the best we can hope for is for alternate settings.
Like, type A uses an extra button to turn around, type B works like 1.0

Would like to see if we can make enough noise for management to hear us though.

I'd loathe using the mouse when playing a mmorpg. XI I played with keyboard only, and XIV with gamepad.

Mouse outside a FPS? Not my cup of tea.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Yeah I live my life with Resident Evil style tank controls in all situations amiright?

Though seriously while not as bad as resident evils "Turn to move" not being able to have free reign on your movement with just the keyboard is silly (It's arguable you can do workaround with the mouse) but to not give the option for keyboard users is as bad as saying they are releasing the game on PS3 without considering how a controler will work with the UI and movement in general (Free movement is much more suited to the controler as well.)

Having locked movement while locked onto a target is well and good (Hell XIV 1.0 and XI had it even) But it was always a snap to unlock your target and regain full control again even in combat if you deemed it. Options...for the people who screamed for them it's funny to see some of the same people fight against it when the tables turn and other people ask for them.

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I thought I read that alpha was only to test mouse and keyboard. That's not correct?

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Originally Posted by Psykotsu

I thought I read that alpha was only to test mouse and keyboard. That's not correct?

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it is correct

and

"all contents are under development and subject to change"

yoshi-p is a wonderful man, he always give us choice

Oh of course the controls are far from final, can't wait to see if the Beta adresses our concerns. It's hard to judge from what little we get from the Alpha build considering it's not really meant for alot of gameplay stuff.

But we got to roll with what they give us, I'm sure if we are totally off base the dev team is perfectly capable of ignoring our unfounds rants (Due to our lack of insight that they have due to information being at their fingertips)