Permanent Death Servers

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Originally Posted by Matsume

The rest of your balony is superfluous. The OP is not asking for anything akin to that nonsense

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Yes, he is. All my examples are for server modes that wouldn't work in Final Fantasy XIV, just like a perma death server wouldn't.

Also, I like how everyone's ideas on the matter are subjective, except, of course, your own. A lot of people have already pointed out why it wouldn't work in this game.


Please tell us why do you think permadeath would work in a game whose content is designed to kill people over the slightest mistake and mispositioning (and losing a single member - the white mage - means full party wipe 9 times out of 10), that is unsoloable, in which some enemies have instant kill abilities, that is extremely time consuming (powerleveling to 50 is only the first step), the combat is not completely skill based and you cannot just avoid everything given enough skill, with ridiculously low drop rates and little to no actual way to retreat from a losing battle other than hoping that return will kick off before something aggros you.

Every pearma death game I know is designed in a way that most of the stuff I've written does not apply.

I am actually now thinking that as much fun this would be I am not so sure it would actually work.
Yeah, if everything goes as planned it's fine but what if tank or healer DC when you're doing a fight? The rest 6 people can say bye bye to their characters.

No to the whole server idea - it would waste server resources.

But I suppose you could create hardcore dungeons that have checkpoints or something - little camps people revive at if your party makes it that far and they can heal up/buff safely there.

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Originally Posted by Mamba

I am actually now thinking that as much fun this would be I am not so sure it would actually work.
Yeah, if everything goes as planned it's fine but what if tank or healer DC when you're doing a fight? The rest 6 people can say bye bye to their characters.

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Bring back Secondary Tanks and Healers?

No thanks. Terrible idea.

Lets say a party forms and goes into Garuda. 1 brd/whm, who is a greifer, just hits return right before AF. There were no survivors. Diablo / Torchlight / DayZ etc. does NOT need people to clear content. This game does.

I like it, lets do it SE. I want the thrill, the risk and fear. Give me some real consequences.

I say that when you die on said server, Yoshida should personally come to your house and go all Manhunt on you with a plastic grocery bag. If you don't want that you can stay on your baby 'normal' server.

Wouldn't be popular enough to warrant the server costs, and would drop in popularity dramatically over time. It also includes potential risks, because players that choose to play on these servers have a chance of quitting the game (and thus not getting SE money) if they die.

The feature doesn't draw in players that aren't playing the game so it's not an effective marketing tool, it's just an option for players already playing the game... with a risk of losing those players when they lose everything. Not an appealing idea for SE.

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Originally Posted by Matsume

What's hard about Powerleveling a job to 50 in 2 days or spamming enter a bajillion times til your crafter/gatherer dings 50? Actually like someone else mentioned a smart player would likely have a separate character dedicated to crafting and gathering so that if his battle character died that progress wouldn't be lost.

Common Sense is severely lacking in this neck of the woods.

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Unless someone finds an exploit in the new version, you won't be able to just power level through killing mobs. They have said plenty of times that questing/dungeons/leves are the best way to get a character from 1 to 50. How long will that take? Who knows, but power leveling won't be a viable options anymore.