The state of the Game

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

The fact SE doesn't survey the FFXIV player base became a huge red flag for me that they simply don't care what we think or want.

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I mean, can you blame Square-Enix? With the amount of takes people here have, you'd think all feedback was constructive. Or important. Or relevant.

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

I mean, can you blame Square-Enix? With the amount of takes people here have, you'd think all feedback was constructive. Or important. Or relevant.

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A well-structured survey asking questions that relate to matters the studio is prepared to address can be incredibly useful. It's the primary reason real games issue regular surveys.

While we are encouraged by the game to provide feedback here, I'd agree much of it is completely useless.

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Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu

That was a lot of stuff to read, it's obvious you're passionate about the game.
I absolutely disagree. I do not want to prepare for a fight by memorizing 32 different boss spells and the exact meaning where to run when the boss casts spell 18.

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But you don't...? You read the attack name, let's take M5N. "2-Snap Twist & Drop the Needle", you see that attack, and you look what side of the arena is safe by looking at which side doesn't have the massive audio visualizer, and you stand right next to the danger zone. You know he's going to do it twice. You don't know what Drop the Needle means, sure. But you see that mechanic once, and you understand all the variations of that mechanic.

Or P9's Front Combination and Rear Combination. Most attack names are self explanatory.

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Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu

This is a game, not a Latin school exam. I'm all for challenging fights, but decyphering crude boss emotes in real time is not challenging - it's annoying. That's why I don't bother with anything in this game beyond the MSQ.

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Then what exactly is challenging to you? If reading and adjusting to attack telegraphs in real time isn't challenging, but instead is annoying, where exactly would you put the challenge then?

Current state of the game? Ass.


"Can you really blame Square-Enix?", someone asked.

Yes, yes we can.

They have willingly let themselves become the dumpster fire they are today. And they don't seem to care, so why should we?

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

A well-structured survey asking questions that relate to matters the studio is prepared to address can be incredibly useful.

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That would require the studio to be cognizant of issues with the game, and then actually admit that there are things that could be better or improved.

Something that this studio seems incapable of doing, even when faced with backlash.

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Originally Posted by savarna

My thoughts exactly. Even when it comes to giving actual and structured feedback, they take it too personal, clouded by their fanboyism to Yoshi P who they place on a pedestal mumbling the same mind-numbing things over like 'Stop playing it if you don't like it'. Unless the man is paying you, you're just part of a cult or a troll.

I wish these people would drill this into their troglodyte minds...WE ARE PAYING for the service, so we as customers, have the right to criticize it. Is just as easy as your favorite restaurant that you’ve been going to for ages and suddenly their food quality drops to garbage levels, you criticize it so they get back on track to what once made them good for you to eat there on repeat and even bring your family and friends. Why is this so hard to understand, is beyond?

Over time, this community has grown very toxic around this, so I don't even know how they still consider themselves 'Wholesome'.

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Technically we're paying for the right to access the service.



I'm still playing due to my friends circle, my FC and my house.


Doesn't mean I think the games in a good spot because it most definitely isn't.

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

I mean, can you blame Square-Enix? With the amount of takes people here have, you'd think all feedback was constructive. Or important. Or relevant.

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Its not like its their JOB to pick up any useful feedback from the sea of feedback. And not cry and just call it quits for surveys?

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

A well-structured survey asking questions that relate to matters the studio is prepared to address can be incredibly useful. It's the primary reason real games issue regular surveys.

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I have played a ton of "real games" over the years...I can't recall even a single one ever issuing surveys at all, let alone "regular" ones...

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

Its not like its their JOB to pick up any useful feedback from the sea of feedback. And not cry and just call it quits for surveys?

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

I mean, can you blame Square-Enix?

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I sure can actually. Here's how:

Presenting a list of failures that SE spent all of FF14's revenue on instead of making the game better over the past decade:


- Murdered: Soul Suspect*
- I am Setsuna
- Lost Sphear
- The Quiet Man
- Left Alive
- Babylon's Fall** & *
- Marvel's Avengers**
- Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy**
- Forspoken*
- Foamstars

* Studio divested or closed following release
**Catastrophic financial loss

--It has also been disclosed by SE that they have suffered a 140 million dollar loss due to "content abandonment loss"--
Poof. Gone. Vanished. Nothing to show or present for it, just 9,333,333 months worth of sub revenue tossed into the furnace

So yeah. All that money and none of it went into re-writing the engine, or significant and timely QoL updates, providing more content, or just making the current content in general any better. When's the last time we had a good event with good rewards? (spoiler: Summer 2023). Even the christmas event was lame this time around. Unbelievable how people continue to defend this blatant ripoff