Finally Understanding SE's Decision Making (And Why It Won't Change)

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Originally Posted by Exmo

This doesn't make sense. The mobile version has a "design doc" compiled across ten years worth of evolution and feedback. The PC version which is its point of reference had no idea what it needed to look like ten years from its original (difficult) development, so obviously could not plan for it. It's totally unreasonable to put their differences down to the attitude of the devs.

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*Points to the forums*
*Pushes the white knights away*
*Points to the forums again*

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Originally Posted by Ranhansha

*Points to the forums*
*Pushes the white knights away*
*Points to the forums again*

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I have no idea what you're trying to say. Maybe you could communicate as if you're not in the internet in 2005?

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Originally Posted by Exmo

This doesn't make sense. The mobile version has a "design doc" compiled across ten years worth of evolution and feedback. The PC version which is its point of reference had no idea what it needed to look like ten years from its original (difficult) development, so obviously could not plan for it. It's totally unreasonable to put their differences down to the attitude of the devs.

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As much as this statement may make sense, it does not find it in the facts. Yes the game is 10 years old but 10 years ago today there was WoW Warlords of Dreanor and so many other MMO experiences (in 2010 there was Cataclysm) and if we have to talk about QoL that existed 20 years ago but still don't exist now in FF14 (friend list privacy, infinite chat tabs, Chat Bubble, decent Crafting) I'd say they didn't need a mobile game to apply quality of life solutions that have existed in other games for 21 years.

It could have been done before ARR was released.

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Originally Posted by Videatur

As much as this statement may make sense, it does not find it in the facts. Yes the game is 10 years old but 10 years ago today there was WoW Warlords of Dreanor and so many other MMO experiences (in 2010 there was Cataclysm) and if we have to talk about QoL that existed 20 years ago but still don't exist now in FF14 (friend list privacy, infinite chat tabs, Chat Bubble, decent Crafting) I'd say they didn't need a mobile game to apply quality of life solutions that have existed in other games for 21 years.

It could have been done before ARR was released.

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You're not taking into account the conditions under which ARR was developed. The fact that they made 2.0 at all in that timeframe while also maintaining and supporting 1.0 to the extent that they managed is a great achievement. I know people like to drag the game these days but let's not be revisionist here

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Originally Posted by Exmo

You're not taking into account the conditions under which ARR was developed. The fact that they made 2.0 at all in that timeframe while also maintaining and supporting 1.0 to the extent that they managed is a great achievement. I know people like to drag the game these days but let's not be revisionist here

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No one intends to change the course of history, ARR came out on 27 August 2013, it is 6 February 2025 and the things I mentioned are not yet there. They have had 12 years since ARR came out I think the crunch from 1.0 to 2.0 is long over.

There is a tendency in this community, as I saw, to justify things that in other games would immediately be taken very badly in general. Perhaps it is time to change the mental structure of how one supports a game in light of the recent gaming industry, times change -quote.

Speaking of chat bubbles, didn't they show screenshots of this last year? What even happened to those?
Meanwhile modders adding them to the game under a week, and viera and hrotgar hats as well...

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Originally Posted by Valence

Speaking of chat bubbles, didn't they show screenshots of this last year? What even happened to those?
Meanwhile modders adding them to the game under a week, and viera and hrotgar hats as well...

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same place as every other promise yoshi has made, forgotten about and hoping you forget about it too

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Originally Posted by Valence

Speaking of chat bubbles, didn't they show screenshots of this last year? What even happened to those?
Meanwhile modders adding them to the game under a week, and viera and hrotgar hats as well...

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Their content delivery pipeline is very rigid and CS3 do not really do feature updates outside of major patches (if I remember right, feel free to correct me). The feature was shown 5 months ago during PAX, and the only major release we had until then was 7.1, when the feature supposedly wasn't finished yet. So unless the feature gets scrapped, most likely in one of the future big patches.

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Originally Posted by Exmo

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Maybe you could communicate as if you're not in the internet in 2005?

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Nah, if you couldn't understand that I don't think you'd get the simplicity of what I meant even if I explained it to you.

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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

His greatest success was copying WoW and making 2.0 a WoW clone with an FF skin. Since then, he has done absolutely nothing innovative, at all. Every patch since 2.1 has been the same two, alternating formulae. His great chance was FF16, to do something completely new with no technical debt or prior mistakes to work around, and it followed the FF14 formula to a frightening degree.

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It's even worse than what you've said because not only did he personally not do anything innovative, when his battle designers tried to do something new in ARR and HW instead of encouraging them he slowly put a stop to it.