Privacy from third party sites

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Originally Posted by Minali

(source: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-4-gdpr/ )

I'm not a lawyer but "online identifier" sounds about accurate.

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Natural person who can be id by an online identifier

Tell me how I id your natural person with in game char :p

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Just out of curiosity, is a week1 clear that important when looking for statics?
Asking, since some can clear it but might take a little longer than a week or two.
Depending on personal time to play and / or the groups, probably from Party Finder.

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Yeah, it’s more important than having ultimates on-patch for example, I think most week1 static will ask for week 1 - week 2 clear

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Yeah, it’s more important than having ultimates on-patch for example, I think most week1 static will ask for week 1 - week 2 clear

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That's fine for speed runners but at that point people trying to be on that level would already be parsing and logging themselves. Opting-in to this scene, I don't see why people not interested in this opting-out is such a problem. Some people play the game at their own pace.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Yeah, it’s more important than having ultimates on-patch for example, I think most week1 static will ask for week 1 - week 2 clear

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So it's for a static that aims for week1 clears I take it.
Not just 'any static' that might not aim for week1, but simply clears?

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Originally Posted by Ramiee

That's fine for speed runners but at that point people trying to be on that level would already be parsing and logging themselves. Opting-in to this scene, I don't see why people not interested in this opting-out is such a problem. Some people play the game at their own pace.

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Nothing wrong going at your own pace, it’s just that in some case, you will have to prove what you’re capable of

But nothing wrong in not doing extremes/savages/ultimates

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Originally Posted by aiqa

Since there isn't a good reasons for the data collection, opt-out is also against EU law. GPDR sets requirements for processing personal data. FFlogs and tomestone are most likely to small to ever get into problems with that, but it's still not a great look.

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I don't think GDPR applies in this circumstance.

Firstly because it is reference to an identifiable natural person, and whilst I am a person, nothing about my logs, or anything would attach the data to me as a 'natural person'. From Square Enix' perspective this may be true in that they hold information that would directly tie my character/account to identifiable details, but nothing about my logs does this.

Equally in the case as with GDPR it is not strictly about the data itself but how that data is processed as to whether it would violate GDPR.

It isn't that they are too small for anyone to care, because they absolutely would, it's just the fact that it's not really clear cut

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Nothing wrong going at your own pace, it’s just that in some case, you will have to prove what you’re capable of

But nothing wrong in not doing extremes/savages/ultimates

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So yeah we agree this is something we should opt-in to if you're trying to play in the parsing/speedrunning scene but its okay to not be part of if you are just playing the game at your own pace. Because thats all im saying.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

So it's for a static that aims for week1 clears I take it.
Not just 'any static' that might not aim for week1, but simply clears?

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Week 1 clears are typically reserved for hardcore statics (i.e. those that hit the tier daily for hours on end until it's finished so it's very time demanding). The lead will typically want to see proof that you can parse extremely high, what you've cleared (typically last expac's savage + the newest ultimate to show you're up to date and are reliable to clear with) and probably go through some form of tryouts. The point for them is to clear as quick as possible so people who make lots of mistakes/can't learn quickly should avoid it.

The majority of statics though outside of hardcore level won't care about your logs as they just want to clear ultimately and aren't too bothered about how long it takes. They most likely won't be as efficient as a hardcore static but it's either clearing with that or going into PF on your own to clear in order to get your foot in the door with Week 1 people.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Natural person who can be id by an online identifier

Tell me how I id your natural person with in game char :p

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We have only one day until maintenance for a new expansion and I have the feeling you are one of the people just looking for more material for cherry picking and crapping on others anyway. I have better things to do with my time today, like learning BLU spells or doing a hunt train. :) You have plenty of urls to look it up, aside from, idk, google or duckduckgo, if you would really want to know, you can figure it out.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

I don't think GDPR applies in this circumstance.

Firstly because it is reference to an identifiable natural person, and whilst I am a person, nothing about my logs, or anything would attach the data to me as a 'natural person'. From Square Enix' perspective this may be true in that they hold information that would directly tie my character/account to identifiable details, but nothing about my logs does this.

Equally in the case as with GDPR it is not strictly about the data itself but how that data is processed as to whether it would violate GDPR.

It isn't that they are too small for anyone to care, because they absolutely would, it's just the fact that it's not really clear cut

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There is no requirement for a direct reference to individual humans. It only has to relate to a human, which basically means that it wouldn't apply to bots playing FF, or data from a legal person (company). It explicitly includes data collected about online identifiers (so for FF that means usernames) as "personal data".

And I doubt these websites would look much better if you look into the type of data processing they do. They rank everything, make it publicly available, and store for years. I haven't looked into if that is exluded from the GPDR, but I very much doubt it.