You're a Disgrace

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I'm so dead.

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honestly this guy is hilarious for daring to show to the world exactly what these cheats look like

Man, of course it's Eli Blue. He does the same thing in PVP for months now. Still not banned. He doesn't even TRY to be subtle with it, everyone knows he's doing it. Still here!

I mean, after a while, you can't even be mad at the guy anymore. It just becomes amusing to see what he'll do next without being banned.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Ah yes, the "all plugins are evil" stance.
Completely ignoring the totally coincidental increased pace at getting QoL changes when plugin use became widespread. Like numbers on buffs/debuffs in the party list, or damage types being shown on flying text, to name a few.

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My favorite QoL addition is minions / orchestration rolls having the checkmark if you already own them. Which SE said would be impossible before a modder did it, resulting in the official implementation later.

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

Man, of course it's Eli Blue. He does the same thing in PVP for months now. Still not banned. He doesn't even TRY to be subtle with it, everyone knows he's doing it. Still here!

I mean, after a while, you can't even be mad at the guy anymore. It just becomes amusing to see what he'll do next without being banned.

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He has been banned actually. Just not permanently. He got a 10 day vacation for the last time he went a bit crazy.

I don't think there was ever a reason to be made at him specifically anyways. He's an activist showing how bad this game is at handling these issues.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

This just in

People going in solo lobbies dont affect anybody.

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This just in:

Solo lobbies haven't been the main issue for a while now. See:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...c7jO/giphy.gif

It's ironic. If SE was on top of these issues you probably wouldn't be on these forums, considering openly encouraging and condoning the use of third party plugins is just as much against the ToS as actually using them is.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

He has been banned actually. Just not permanently. He got a 10 day vacation for the last time he went a bit crazy.

I don't think there was ever a reason to be made at him specifically anyways. He's an activist showing how bad this game is at handling these issues.



This just in:

Solo lobbies haven't been the main issue for a while now. See:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...c7jO/giphy.gif

It's ironic. If SE was on top of these issues you probably wouldn't be on these forums, considering openly encouraging and condoning the use of third party plugins is just as much against the ToS as actually using them is.

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I would absolutely love for you to show me where I encouraged or condoned third party usage, me saying I dont care if people do solo lobbies or even use what you showed on that video is not directly condoning, I actually just dont care because this event is an absolute bugged mess, mixed with absolute terrilble netcode and server tick, making it impossible for people like me that are from the EU and play on NA to even get any win at all, I personally dont care about the achievement, but for those that do, it's their only way to get the wins and I dont blame them.

If the issues I mentioned were not present, my opinion on this would be much different and I would gladly condemn it.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

The only I can think of when I read this thread's title:

Witches of England...
You're a disgrace!
Miserable witches...
You're good for nothing worms!
Everywhere I look, I see the repulsive sight of hundreds, thousands of revolting, little children.
I ask you, Why?
One child a week is no good to me!
-The Grand High Witch, The Witches
ヽ(´ω｀○)ﾉ.+ﾟ*｡:ﾟ+

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I loved that book and the Angelica Huston movie

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I would absolutely love for you to show me where I encouraged or condoned third party usage, me saying I dont care if people do solo lobbies or even use what you showed on that video is not directly condoning, I actually just dont care because this event is an absolute bugged mess, mixed with absolute terrilble netcode and server tick, making it impossible for people like me that are from the EU and play on NA to even get any win at all, I personally dont care about the achievement, but for those that do, it's their only way to get the wins and I dont blame them.

If the issues I mentioned were not present, my opinion on this would be much different and I would gladly condemn it.

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Unfortunately the forum mods covered up for you.

I take it you remember our conversation on the "Fall guys achievement" thread, where you responded to me calling out this post:
https://i.imgur.com/u5dtryL.png
In that thread you defended cheating multiple times, pushing the blame onto SE directly. It wasn't for lack of caring, it was always, "This event is bad, therefore anything should be allowed." It was a discussion lasting about 4-5 posts long between us on page 4. You will obviously deny this, and unfortunately I didn't have the hindsight to screenshot our discussion.

I'm sure other people can vouch for it, but you'll fight against it either way.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Ah yes, the "all plugins are evil" stance.
Completely ignoring the totally coincidental increased pace at getting QoL changes when plugin use became widespread. Like numbers on buffs/debuffs in the party list, or damage types being shown on flying text, to name a few.

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Anarchy isn’t the way.

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People be making some mods and sh*t for this sillygoofy event?

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Unfortunately the forum mods covered up for you.

I take it you remember our conversation on the "Fall guys achievement" thread, where you responded to me calling out this post:
https://i.imgur.com/u5dtryL.png
In that thread you defended cheating multiple times, pushing the blame onto SE directly. It wasn't for lack of caring, it was always, "This event is bad, therefore anything should be allowed." It was a discussion lasting about 4-5 posts long between us on page 4. You will obviously deny this, and unfortunately I didn't have the hindsight to screenshot our discussion.

I'm sure other people can vouch for it, but you'll fight against it either way.

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I actually agreed with that post you just showed and I said I would do the same because of the same issues that person mentioned, aka I'd turn a blind eye and wouldnt care, and I still stand by this now, as I mentioned just now, I will gladly condemn it once those issues are fixed.

Being on a different continent should not mean you are entirely excluded from winning a limited time event or reaching an achievement for it.

Do I think what is happening is bad ? Absolutely

Do I think it could have been avoided ? Yes, if SE fixed their netcode issues and the server tick problems and also fixed other mentioned issues on the forums regarding the event, it would have been.

It's just too easy to call out "muh bad cheaters" when the system was unfair from day 1, technically, someone closer to the NA servers is literally cheating compared to someone on the other side of the US, in South America or in the EU in regards to NA worlds.

And to expand on what I mean, this entire event is an absolute joke, the fact only one person wins out of 23 (no 2nd or 3rd place and such) WILL by default encourage people to cheat/use exploits, that's just how it is, that aint me condoning it, I am just saying that this game mode is made that way, it's "win or lose", there's no "you placed 2nd, here's X as reward".

There are so many issues with the fairness of this gamemode, even aside of the netcode and server tick, that this was bound to happen under these conditions, it just was, this entire event is a mess and in all honesty is a complete failure.