Another plugin feature being added to the game official (Job Icons)

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

But is it actually cheating though.

It's a simulation, not actually the game.

it may temper you to the situation, and think "That this is just like in the simulations"
making it easier.

But it's not actually in the game.
it's like what that one CC says, does that make discord a TPP, Does that make twitch a TPP during a World Race.
Does that make the Housing Simulator<By itself, with no intent to move into the game>, or the Glamour sharing websites TPPs?

It does not.

The whole "You do ____ for ___, ___ does ____ for ___. They are not the same."

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Using simulator is cheating (it gives you an incredibly huge advantage, way more than any 3rd party tools), but yes «*its legal*» lol

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Using simulator is cheating (it gives you an incredibly huge advantage), but yes «*its legal*» lol

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Then you'll be allowed to have that view despite it being clear it isn't.

One can always try to define everything.
But the end result will be that it isn't attached to the game. it doesn't affect the end result.

Does the casual that toys around with it, but ultimately decides to not actually do the real content in the game.., Cheating?

No, they were satisfying curiosity.
Does the CC playing with a Housing Sim Cheating or ruining a Community by streaming a sim that doesn't interact with the game.<Unless the intent was to use it for that goal>

No.

That is just digging for Gotchas, and using the straws found to make a "Man"

You can have a "Activity" but that Activity doesn't make everyone a Master.

You'll be allowed to have that idea that it does. But all else knows they are not the same.

[I personally never even have looked for said things, but have heard of them via Nonsense some mains brought up cause said CC has streamed it.]

But one doesn't need to be part of those areas of the community to see what falls under TPP.

or how Canadane said. how others are seen as Secondar Party.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Using simulator is cheating (it gives you an incredibly huge advantage, way more than any 3rd party tools), but yes «*its legal*» lol

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"its cheating to practice at poker before going to the gambling table"

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Originally Posted by 4clubbedace

"its cheating to practice at poker before going to the gambling table"

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This analogy makes no sense. Cheating is defined by having an unfair or dishonest advantage. Particularly when competition is present. Anyone can practice poker before going to the gambling table. Whether they choose to do so is another matter. The same can be said about video guides for a trial or raid. This does and will give players an advantage over those who have not, or do not use those guides, but everyone has access to them. So a player who chooses to go in blind when these tools are available aren't cheated; they've deliberately chose to gimp themselves. Apply that knowledge to a combat simulator.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

This analogy makes no sense. Cheating is defined by having an unfair or dishonest advantage. Particularly when competition is present. Anyone can practice poker before going to the gambling table. Whether they choose to do so is another matter. The same can be said about video guides for a trial or raid. This does and will give players an advantage over those who have not, or do not use those guides, but everyone has access to them. So a player who chooses to go in blind when these tools are available aren't cheated; they've deliberately chose to gimp themselves. Apply that knowledge to a combat simulator.

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I just googled it, cause I've never heard of it before, and correct me if I'm wrong it looks like something anyone could use pretty freely.

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Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

I just googled it, cause I've never heard of it before, and correct me if I'm wrong it looks like something anyone could use pretty freely.

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Yea everyone can use the sim. For some mechanics it only really makes sense to train with a full group of 8 but it's freely available to everyone.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Yea everyone can use the sim. For some mechanics it only really makes sense to train with a full group of 8 but it's freely available to everyone.

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I might give it a go for 5 minutes, find it pretty neat, then never use it again

if sims are not cheating then should they be considered mandatory for normal progression of normal statics (akin to spoiling yourself by reading a guide beforehand) and therefore should encounters be designed with the assumption that players will use simulators to practice latter mechanics?

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Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya

if sims are not cheating then should they be considered mandatory for normal progression of normal statics (akin to spoiling yourself by reading a guide beforehand) and therefore should encounters be designed with the assumption that players will use simulators to practice latter mechanics?

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That would be kind of circular, would it?

Fights designed for people using sims based on the fights designed for people using sims to practice for fights designed around people using sims.

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Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

That would be kind of circular, would it?

Fights designed for people using sims based on the fights designed for people using sims to practice for fights designed around people using sims.

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let's say hypothetically they make a new ultimate fight but put the hardest 3 trios at the penultimate phase
trios by definition make bosses untargettable so you focus on movement only, not dps
so if you were to be able to play on a simulator that lets you practice the trios without having to do all the previous phases, you would gain a massive advantage because anything you learn in the simulation can be translated 1 to 1 to ingame movement

so if the asaumption is that since simulators are freely accessible to anyone and therefore not cheating, then should developers make the latter phases of a fight insanely hard, with the assumption that players are required to use simulators to practice them beforehand?