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    Player SeiyaSoiya's Avatar
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    Hariette Reina-cuento
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    Gladiator Lv 90

    Another plugin feature being added to the game official (Job Icons)

    Does that mean we are now morally allowed to use the mod?
    no, not legally
    morally

    no, I don't mean legally allowed
    I mean morally allowed

    morally, as in, socially accepted
    no, I don't mean legally, I don't mean the ToS permits it

    I mean socially accepted as the feature is upcoming and about to be added
    No, I don't mean the ToS suddenly changed to allow for third party tools, I don't mean you cannot get banned for using it.
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    Nox Bloodthorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    Does that mean we are now morally allowed to use the mod?
    no, not legally
    morally

    no, I don't mean legally allowed
    I mean morally allowed

    morally, as in, socially accepted
    no, I don't mean legally, I don't mean the ToS permits it

    I mean socially accepted as the feature is upcoming and about to be added
    No, I don't mean the ToS suddenly changed to allow for third party tools, I don't mean you cannot get banned for using it.
    I just hope that the person that made that plugin didn't get ban afterward, Like why don't they work with modders for some features from time to time, yes there is hardcore mods there like nudity and others but aren't all like that.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noox-115 View Post
    I just hope that the person that made that plugin didn't get ban afterward, Like why don't they work with modders for some features from time to time, yes there is hardcore mods there like nudity and others but aren't all like that.
    It's to avoid legal issues or some crap that I dont know in the business world. It's why other companies like Blizzard have not implemented a lot of popular addons into their official game even though it seemingly could just be done.
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    Player Ravenblade1979's Avatar
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    Anastasia Minou-rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    Does that mean we are now morally allowed to use the mod?
    no, not legally
    morally

    no, I don't mean legally allowed
    I mean morally allowed

    morally, as in, socially accepted
    no, I don't mean legally, I don't mean the ToS permits it

    I mean socially accepted as the feature is upcoming and about to be added
    No, I don't mean the ToS suddenly changed to allow for third party tools, I don't mean you cannot get banned for using it.
    i mean. maybe for the feature being added as a result of it but i would think anything else would still be against tos lol
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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    Does that mean we are now morally allowed to use the mod?
    no, not legally
    morally

    no, I don't mean legally allowed
    I mean morally allowed

    morally, as in, socially accepted
    no, I don't mean legally, I don't mean the ToS permits it

    I mean socially accepted as the feature is upcoming and about to be added
    No, I don't mean the ToS suddenly changed to allow for third party tools, I don't mean you cannot get banned for using it.
    yes no yes no yes no yes no yes yes no yes no yes no
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Absolutely yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Why you people dance the same old chestnut when the answer hasn't changed since I dunno how long I have no idea.
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    Why you people dance the same old chestnut when the answer hasn't changed since I dunno how long I have no idea.
    he just really wants validation for using 3rd party mods
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    Veya Akemi
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    he just really wants validation for using 3rd party mods
    The inverse, OP is staunchly against mods and has had a thread a while back about kicking a static member for using mods without checking with the rest of the static and things blowing up on their face, and now they made a thread to "trick" people into defending mods and have a "gotcha" moment (see here), which doesn't seem to be working.
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Forward and back, and then forward and back. And then go forward and back then put one foot forward.

    Oh, and still not sure why people don’t understand:

    When devs take time out to specifically replicate mods, they are making an effort to bring you QoL changes so you would no longer need to use the mods and break ToS. It’s not about mods magically becoming permissible in some janky moral way, it’s the devs bringing players what they already want in a legit manner.
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