Bring back unskippable cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by Scintilla

The cutscenes are short (a few exceptions excluded) but can you really watch them properly when you have a boss room lock countdown flashing across the lower-center of the screen because someone decided they weren't going to wait? Unfortunately, although the cutscenes are very short the same could be said of the fight, with most content being so out-levelled.

I cannot fathom why some players cannot wait for a minute to let a new player play the game how it's intended.

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Not everyone cares about the story. Not everyone cares about the boss being pulled. I didn't watch a single cutscene. Not one. I know I can't speak for everyone and that's fine. If a new person wants to speak up, then by all means, ask. Don't demand, as people don't take kindly to people copping out orders, but ask. I'd be more than happy to wait if you showed me the respect of asking me for more of my time rather than expecting it.

If it's someone who isn't even new, demanding people wait, I will not acknowledge them. They do not get to speak on behalf of the new person, especially when not every new person cares.

Cause I mean,

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

If I'm watching a cut scene and somebody pulls, then I miss the start of the fight. Oh well, it's not like I'll never see the content again in a roulette.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

I don't think that's the point. The point is you can only experience something for the first time once. And a new player experience is more important in that case than someone who's already been subscribed for years. We even get more items as compensation for that. It's not compensation if you don't, y'know, compensate. But to each their own. I have zero problems waiting, honestly.

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Here's an example of someone saying "I don't really care if someone pulls while I'm in CS"

And someone replying "Well you should, your experience as a new person is more important!"

Let people speak for themselves. Not everyone has the same opinions, new or not.

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

It makes me sad that this is even a discussion. Is it so hard to give someone a few seconds to watch a cut scene? Why cant people just be polite and decent to one another? Those other warriors of light aren't just pixels on your screen that exist for you to complete content. They are living breathing people behind a screen, just like you.

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Lies. Everyone in DF is someones' pet cactus. Or some other inanimate object.

Average real people can't be that bad at pressing buttons.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

By that logic, why even have established courtesy in society? The point is to be nice to people, especially if its their first time. But I guess that idea is too alien to some folk.

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Established courtesy in society is also to not expect anything from anyone. To not assume you or anyone else is owed anything. To not make demands of people. Yet here we are. But I guess that idea is too alien to some folk /shrug

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

By that logic, why even have established courtesy in society? The point is to be nice to people, especially if its their first time. But I guess that idea is too alien to some folk.

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Again, courtesy goes both ways. If we were to measure this example of a cutscene for example, and we will say the cutscene is 30 seconds. Say 2 cutscenes, 1 at the start of a duty, and 1 before loot is allotted. 23 people together are giving 1 minute each. 1 person is taking a minute.
While that person is not taking 23 minutes for cutscenes, I won’t even try and swing that one, they are being given 23 minutes total to the 0 they are returning. Courtesy would be to take the same or less than you are given. Otherwise we would call this selfishness

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

Again, courtesy goes both ways. If we were to measure this example of a cutscene for example, and we will say the cutscene is 30 seconds. Say 2 cutscenes, 1 at the start of a duty, and 1 before loot is allotted. 23 people together are giving 1 minute each. 1 person is taking a minute.
While that person is not taking 23 minutes for cutscenes, I won’t even try and swing that one, they are being given 23 minutes total to the 0 they are returning. Courtesy would be to take the same or less than you are given. Otherwise we would call this selfishness

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That's some creative maths you have there.
Nobody is giving 23 minutes here. Every individual is either giving or taking 1 minute. It's not a currency you can pool.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

That's some creative maths you have there.

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The math adds up. 23 ppl giving + 1 taking. I just showed my work. Common courtesy would be not wasting other people’s time and using your own. However this community generally extends a generous hand. However, generous should not be expected. Be gracious when you get it and accept it when you do not

I'd prefer if it's my first time in an instance that people let me watch the cutscene in peace. If any new person is present then I will way for them to finish. I got to watch it the way I wanted the first time so I will give that same courtesy. If they choose to skip it then I can see that. It's very simple.

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

The math adds up. 23 ppl giving + 1 taking. I just showed my work. Common courtesy would be not wasting other people’s time and using your own. However this community generally extends a generous hand. However, generous should not be expected. Be gracious when you get it and accept it when you do not

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No, the math doesn't work in this situation. Nobody is being inconvenienced by 23 minutes.
It only takes ONE of those 23 people to screw over the 1 waiting. Everyone just needs to take ONE MINUTE of their time to not be an ass.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

That's some creative maths you have there.
Nobody is giving 23 minutes here. Every individual is either giving or taking 1 minute. It's not a currency you can pool.

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Yes, they already touched on that in their post;

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

23 people together are giving 1 minute each. 1 person is taking a minute.
While that person is not taking 23 minutes for cutscenes, I won’t even try and swing that one, they are being given 23 minutes total to the 0 they are returning.

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If you had actually read it.

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

The math adds up. 23 ppl giving + 1 taking. I just showed my work.

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That's not how time works, though. 23 people giving up one minute does not cost 23 minutes. It costs one minute. You're pushing a logical fallacy.