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    Bring back unskippable cutscenes.

    Every alliance raid, it's a race to see who can shout about "CS! WE HAVE CUTSCENES! WAIT FOR THE CUTSCENES!"

    The last raid I queued into, someone started shouting about cutscenes within 5 seconds of zoning in.

    The intense level of emotion a lot of people have around making sure they're the cutscene savior for anyone new to the raid is getting absurd.

    It'd come off as more kind and helpful if vets and mentors asked if anyone wanted the raid to wait for cutscenes, or if anyone ever actually informed sprouts that they can view cutscenes outside of content in the inn rooms. But instead, it's a shouting match about cutscenes before you can even queue into a raid nowadays. Years ago on my server, no one ever said a word about cutscenes, people just ran the content and moved on.

    At this point, I'd prefer to sit through unskippable cutscenes on alliance raids than witness the ridiculous way people behave around them.
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    Maybe a way to warrant this could be if someone is watching the CS for the 1st time, then it becomes unskippable? Or like you get the little barrier before the fight.

    The game is able to detect wether or not you're watching it for the 1st time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Maybe a way to warrant this could be if someone is watching the CS for the 1st time, then it becomes unskippable? Or like you get the little barrier before the fight.

    The game is able to detect wether or not you're watching it for the 1st time.
    That sounds like a really good solution. It'd ensure new players get to enjoy the content without missing things, and no one else would have to shout about stuff or get angry for early pulls, etc. It would eliminate the drama around it. Win/win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Maybe a way to warrant this could be if someone is watching the CS for the 1st time, then it becomes unskippable? Or like you get the little barrier before the fight.

    The game is able to detect wether or not you're watching it for the 1st time.
    This seems like such obvious easy solution that I just have to imagine that the game's coding is so whack that it makes it hard to encode first time player detection to trigger "unskippable cs" so they have to have the either skippable cs for all players or unskippable cs for all players like in Castrum and Prae.

    I wish they would implement is so that we can finally avoid this drama
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    This seems like such obvious easy solution that I just have to imagine that the game's coding is so whack that it makes it hard to encode first time player detection to trigger "unskippable cs" so they have to have the either skippable cs for all players or unskippable cs for all players like in Castrum and Prae.

    I wish they would implement is so that we can finally avoid this drama
    If they can detect a new player and give a bonus, there's probably room to do something for first time scenes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    This seems like such obvious easy solution that I just have to imagine that the game's coding is so whack that it makes it hard to encode first time player detection to trigger "unskippable cs" so they have to have the either skippable cs for all players or unskippable cs for all players like in Castrum and Prae.

    I wish they would implement is so that we can finally avoid this drama
    They can detect that if you have the auto-skip option enabled. You still see cutscenes for the 1st time, so maybe they have something to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    This seems like such obvious easy solution that I just have to imagine that the game's coding is so whack that it makes it hard to encode first time player detection to trigger "unskippable cs" so they have to have the either skippable cs for all players or unskippable cs for all players like in Castrum and Prae.

    I wish they would implement is so that we can finally avoid this drama
    It’s indeed weird and has been suggested for Main Scenario roulettes. Because there is 0 point to have the cutscenes if everyone not only saw them a trillion times but want to skip them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    This seems like such obvious easy solution that I just have to imagine that the game's coding is so whack that it makes it hard to encode first time player detection to trigger "unskippable cs" so they have to have the either skippable cs for all players or unskippable cs for all players like in Castrum and Prae.

    I wish they would implement is so that we can finally avoid this drama
    The detection is already there it tells you if there is a new player in the dungeon/trial etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by PikoAliapoh View Post
    Every alliance raid, it's a race to see who can shout about "CS! WE HAVE CUTSCENES! WAIT FOR THE CUTSCENES!"

    The last raid I queued into, someone started shouting about cutscenes within 5 seconds of zoning in.

    The intense level of emotion a lot of people have around making sure they're the cutscene savior for anyone new to the raid is getting absurd.

    It'd come off as more kind and helpful if vets and mentors asked if anyone wanted the raid to wait for cutscenes, or if anyone ever actually informed sprouts that they can view cutscenes outside of content in the inn rooms. But instead, it's a shouting match about cutscenes before you can even queue into a raid nowadays. Years ago on my server, no one ever said a word about cutscenes, people just ran the content and moved on.

    At this point, I'd prefer to sit through unskippable cutscenes on alliance raids than witness the ridiculous way people behave around them.
    We're on the same datacenter and I've never seen this before. I see more so than not (if new or within first month) "Wait on cutscenes" "CS wait".

    Older Alliance raids.. people uhh.. talk in those on Crystal? News to me.
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    Nah.

    To elaborate more on that, it's usually the vets screaming about waiting for cutscene more than the sprouts themselves. In a previous CS thread, like a year ago? Or smth, I saw quite a few sprouts say they don't care if people pull and it actually makes them uncomfortable when people get uppity about it on their behalf.

    I've even seen it get as far as people purposefully wiping the group because someone pulled during CS. Cause in their mind, wreaking havoc and causing a wipe is a way better experience for the new person than them missing the first raid wide.

    Let people speak for themselves instead of trying to be some saviour.
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