Add iLevel restrictions to Alliance Roulette

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Originally Posted by Ayche

Because roulettes are basically volunteering to get bodies into old content.
If you want the roulette rewards, you gotta be willing to volunteer to run content you don't personally like.
If you never want to take the risk of running old content you have zero tolerance for, just forgo the roulette rewards.

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SE could instead make roulettes enjoyable. Having to put up with content you don't find fun isn't a selling point and isn't something to defend.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

The Prae-Castrum comparison is weird though. Prae had the better value despite being longer, but Prae was also much more afk too when you remember that the fights in both were easily pushed through. The ultimate weapon fights in Prae were the only fights that maybe took more than a minute(I don't really remember). Prae being longer didn't matter so much because you could do other things during the whole movie's worth of cutscenes.

You'd be better off both nerfing CT and buffing other raids, and a lot of people would still probably just stop doing alliance raid roulette, but I feel like that'd be for the best anyways.

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If you believe that would be the eventual end result, then this is a terrible solution regardless.

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Originally Posted by PyurBlue

SE could instead make roulettes enjoyable. Having to put up with content you don't find fun isn't a selling point and isn't something to defend.

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Thats kinda subjective. The only way they can make CT enjoyable is to finally update the damn raids to the current level of quality and spectacle offered by the newer ones. Although part of the fun with endgame raids are the fact that you have more access to your toolkit soooo...

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Thats kinda subjective. The only way they can make CT enjoyable is to finally update the damn raids to the current level of quality and spectacle offered by the newer ones. Although part of the fun with endgame raids are the fact that you have more access to your toolkit soooo...

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Fun is absolutely subjective, so one way to make the roulettes more fun is to give us more control over what content we end up in. My idea of making CT more fun is to never have to run them. Before the CT raids were mandatory you could avoid unlocking them and have an alliance roulette that was much better. We could go back to this if the CT raids were put in their own roulette. There are players that naturally flock to them, so there is no danger of increasing queue times for required content. Instead of trying to fight everyone, just let them do what they want. This would allow the other alliance raids to have their own roulette or roulettes to be enjoyed by the players that prefer them.

If you don't want random duties or a particular duty, don't do roulette. You hate to see it, but that's all this ever comes back to because you're still not coming up with anything that's actually better for everyone.

No one's forcing anyone to do anything they don't want, but when you do something like a roulette, you have to understand and accept what the possibilities are. Some of you sound like you should avoid mentor roulette because if you think CT is bad, wait til you get ARR EX fights with a bunch of sprouts.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

If you don't want random duties or a particular duty, don't do roulette. You hate to see it, but that's all this ever comes back to because you're still not coming up with anything that's actually better for everyone.

No one's forcing anyone to do anything they don't want, but when you do something like a roulette, you have to understand and accept what the possibilities are. Some of you sound like you should avoid mentor roulette because if you think CT is bad, wait til you get ARR EX fights with a bunch of sprouts.

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How do you figure that? Also, why does it even matter? If a new idea is not making things worse for anyone, but better for me, who is losing out? No one.

Being given the option to avoid certain duties sounds like exactly the thing that would benefit everyone anyway. If roulettes were more inviting, that might increase participation. Especially when we have duties with very lopsided participation rates. It would be almost impossible to create a situation where CT queue times increase. It's mandatory and many people care about getting in and out rather than actually having any kind of in game experience. That is creating a very negative experience for many players who would rather run the other raids in the game. I don't see any way to paint the side that wants to actually enjoy the game as selfish or entitled. Roulettes don't have to be the way they are now. If their current form doesn't bother you fine, but trying looking beyond your own point of view.

And CT being worse than wiping in EX? Hardly, at least one counts as something to do.

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Originally Posted by PyurBlue

How do you figure that? Also, why does it even matter? If a new idea is not making things worse for anyone, but better for me, who is losing out? No one.

Being given the option to avoid certain duties sounds like exactly the thing that would benefit everyone anyway. If roulettes were more inviting, that might increase participation. Especially when we have duties with very lopsided participation rates. It would be almost impossible to create a situation where CT queue times increase. It's mandatory and many people care about getting in and out rather than actually having any kind of in game experience. That is creating a very negative experience for many players who would rather run the other raids in the game. I don't see any way to paint the side that wants to actually enjoy the game as selfish or entitled. Roulettes don't have to be the way they are now. If their current form doesn't bother you fine, but trying looking beyond your own point of view.

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My point is these ideas only make things better for you (maybe) and will somehow make things worse for others. I've said all I can and more in this thread and the main one.

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And CT being worse than wiping in EX? Hardly, at least one counts as something to do.

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Take the blinders off so you can read better. Failing that, read it again! Failing that, have someone show you how to read comparative statements like the one I made.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

My point is these ideas only make things better for you (maybe) and will somehow make things worse for others.

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If you have some objection to the idea, share it. That's how problems are solved. Otherwise you're making baseless assumptions (like it's going to be worse for everyone).

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Take the blinders off so you can read better.

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What you typed was read very clearly. If wiping is possible, even if it's from poor play, then whatever content you're pointing to is almost certainly better than CT.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

If you don't want random duties or a particular duty, don't do roulette. You hate to see it, but that's all this ever comes back to because you're still not coming up with anything that's actually better for everyone.

No one's forcing anyone to do anything they don't want, but when you do something like a roulette, you have to understand and accept what the possibilities are. Some of you sound like you should avoid mentor roulette because if you think CT is bad, wait til you get ARR EX fights with a bunch of sprouts.

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Lol! You gotta be a troll.. your accusing the people who are queuing normally for AR roulette of not being ok with their duty? When the ilvl cheese heads are literally crying about being in any duty except CT/LotA to the fact that they are activity manipulating the RNG of the roulette to only be what they want.. get outta here with that victim shaming and role reversal on who is really the problem!

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Originally Posted by Baxcel

Lol! You gotta be a troll.. your accusing the people who are queuing normally for AR roulette of not being ok with their duty? When the ilvl cheese heads are literally crying about being in any duty except CT/LotA to the fact that they are activity manipulating the RNG of the roulette to only be what they want.. get outta here with that victim shaming and role reversal on who is really the problem!

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Nah. Troll would be saying everything you just said.