Turn on Demolish for Housing and fix housing please.

Leave it off...

Times like this are the only times Yoshi speaks the truth..

"Hey guys you really can unsubscribe and take breaks between patches and have EVERYTHING here when you come back.."

isn't it amazing...

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Originally Posted by Dzian

Leave it off...

Times like this are the only times Yoshi speaks the truth..

"Hey guys you really can unsubscribe and take breaks between patches and have EVERYTHING here when you come back.."

isn't it amazing...

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Sure, what do we do on all the worlds with no more houses available then ? What is your solution ? They dont want instanced housing, so no more houses will come up at all or barely any at all and they will all have 500 bids on them.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Sure, what do we do on all the worlds with no more houses available then ? What is your solution ? They dont want instanced housing, so no more houses will come up at all or barely any at all and they will all have 500 bids on them.

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Move your Miqote ass to Alpha and Raiden.

currently available:

Alpha: 1134 private plots available, 1 Larges and 95 Mediums
Raiden: 1231 private plots available, 2 Larges and 114 Mediums

There your self inflicted problem for wanting a house is solved.

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Originally Posted by UkcsAlias

It doesnt have to. But it solves the FC ward issue.

Now for FCs the FC wards were used to guarantee a house. Which is required for that workshop. But if the workshop is removed from those houses and put at the FC itself. A house isnt required. Which means that FC houses can become part of the individual house market, with equaly bad odds of obtaining a house. To balance it out further, they could even decide that FC bidding can only be done by the leader (or limit that bidding in some other way to avoid an FC spamming bids on for example a large/medium house - which are already have enough competition as it is).

Thats what it can help. And sure, if they have a house, they can make the workshop accessible from both.

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No, it doesn't "solve" the FC ward issue. That's a different kettle of fish.

It's clear in Yoshi's mind that housing is primary for FCs and secondary to personal. Evidence for this is that it was originally FC only, only releasing to people later. Further evidence for this is that they brought in the 50/50 split for the start of lottery and have maintained a smaller one since.

It does seem that this split will remain, that Yoshi really desires FCs to be able to get housing so they can grow their community. And due to that I really doubt we will ever see the removal of FC only wards.

Now;

Consider that moving subs to a door in the home state main city doesn't impact genuine FCs, these usually desire an estate to set up and be a centre for FC activities. Moving subs to city won't change that. And genuine FCs are by far the main use. The housing surveys prove that.

And as far as Multiple Sub Pens, doing this would make it absolutely easier for everyone to get 8 sub pens up per account. No limits of getting the house first. Do we want that?

Hmm, actually, saying that - bring it on! It would allow effortless forming of 8 sub farms on every single server for this account! (mind you the subsequent grinding would send me to an early grave, heh)

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Originally Posted by Yodada

Move your Miqote ass to Alpha and Raiden.

currently available:

Alpha: 1134 private plots available, 1 Larges and 95 Mediums
Raiden: 1231 private plots available, 2 Larges and 114 Mediums

There your self inflicted problem for wanting a house is solved.

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First I'm not your friend, you dont tell me to "move my miqote ass", we didnt grow up together, stay polite.

Second my main is already on Phantom, maybe ask so you dont look stupid.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Second my main is already on Phantom, maybe ask so you dont look stupid.

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So, the question becomes... do you have a house?

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Wanted to come back to this as I missed it I believe.

I don't really think it's criminal to take away part of a service if you aren't paying for said service anymore. You also didn't buy the house with actual money so there's nothing criminal going on in that sense (unless you RMTd in which case that's your own problem). This isn't a single player game where you buy it as a hard copy and it's yours forever, you're paying a monthly fee to access an online game that could have servers shut down tomorrow if the devs wanted to. What happens to all of your stuff then? Poof. It will also eventually happen too, btw.

If you aren't playing the game or paying for a sub for months on end, why do you need a house that you aren't using and could go to someone else who will use it? Like, realistically, why? What purpose is it serving you collecting dust in a ward? If you care that much about your house, play the game or find someone else to pay your sub for you.

If they won't put in instanced housing or some form of housing that is accessible to all (not apartments because apartment does not equal house), auto demo will eventually go back on. It's not fair to the people who don't have housing and want to experience that part of the content to be locked out because people who don't even play the game anymore care about a house they don't use.

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I think if the case was "we'll take it away but give it back to you when you're back" none would care. the issue is, you obtain something in the game, and it can easily be taken away from you if you decide to take as little as 2 month break.

Its funny because Main Dev has said something in lines of "I encourage people to take breaks and not feel the need to log in all the time", while simultaniously taking away your progress and things you've obtained. I've played tons of games and I dont believe a single game had practice like it, not saying there're not any but I have never played one that takes away your acomplishments if you stop paying money simply put. to me its an awful predatory practice, and it only gets worse because on top of losing a house you also lose all your items shortly after.

at the end of the day its a good way to make sure you have at least 554400 subscribers, but awful thing to do in any other regard. at least that's how I see it.

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Originally Posted by Bukachu

I think if the case was "we'll take it away but give it back to you when you're back" none would care. the issue is, you obtain something in the game, and it can easily be taken away from you if you decide to take as little as 2 month break.

Its funny because Main Dev has said something in lines of "I encourage people to take breaks and not feel the need to log in all the time", while simultaniously taking away your progress and things you've obtained. I've played tons of games and I dont believe a single game had practice like it, not saying there're not any but I have never played one that takes away your acomplishments if you stop paying money simply put. to me its an awful predatory practice, and it only gets worse because on top of losing a house you also lose all your items shortly after.

at the end of the day its a good way to make sure you have at least 554400 subscribers, but awful thing to do in any other regard. at least that's how I see it.

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It exists in LOTRO. If you don't pay upkeep your house is removed from you. They actually have a pretty similar system for housing as here except it's fully FCFS and comes with premium wards for people who want to use paid currency (which can also be removed from you when your sub expires)

Just pointing out one.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

So, the question becomes... do you have a house?

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I have more than enough houses, yes.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I have more than enough houses, yes.

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I am glad! (really)

Moving to new servers does fix the problem, a lot of my European friends have gotten their mediums or larges. I know when the new servers hit NA a lot of my NA friends will have a great chance at a house.

But yes, it does come down to "just how much does one want their home". For a lot of people, the home isn't as important as maintaining their main with FC/Friends.