So, what now? Lotteries with 150+ bids until... when?

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Originally Posted by SweetestLily

For years these forums have been littered with the we need a lottery post. There have been probably over a hundred of them. Now you come here and see the exact opposite tone. I've literally seen a few of the same people who begged for a lottery now crying about it. So yes it's funny to see a complete 180 and no you don't need to "monitor" anyone to see threads that are plastered on the front page for all to see. Nice try though.

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I wish we had a J. Allan Brack in this dev team.

Oh no, not to actually DO anything substantial like making or directing content for this game oh no! I just want somebody like him for PR to come into these forums and do the "You think you do but you dont" thing to people here. Just for lulz.

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Originally Posted by SweetestLily

For years these forums have been littered with the we need a lottery post. There have been probably over a hundred of them. Now you come here and see the exact opposite tone. I've literally seen a few of the same people who begged for a lottery now crying about it. So yes it's funny to see a complete 180 and no you don't need to "monitor" anyone to see threads that are plastered on the front page for all to see. Nice try though.

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Actually, that would be entirely expected for a pretty simple reason. People are far more likely to come on to forums to complain about something they don't like.

People that wanted lotteries would have been coming on to complain to get them, now they have them they don't have as much reason to engage. People that don't like lotteries have reasons to be upset and so come on to the forums to complain about them. Two potentially entirely distinct groups that are being consolidated into one.


You'd also expect familiar faces because there will be people who realise that both acquisition methods are just bandaids on top of a system that is flawed and the actual issue

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

A lot of us tried to warn them. We really did.

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Stop acting like a paragon. You've been told several times the problem is not the system itself but the UNADDRESSED DEMAND.

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Originally Posted by Sairys

Actually, that would be entirely expected for a pretty simple reason. People are far more likely to come on to forums to complain about something they don't like.

People that wanted lotteries would have been coming on to complain to get them, now they have them they don't have as much reason to engage. People that don't like lotteries have reasons to be upset and so come on to the forums to complain about them. Two potentially entirely distinct groups that are being consolidated into one.


You'd also expect familiar faces because there will be people who realise that both acquisition methods are just bandaids on top of a system that is flawed and the actual issue

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You're entitled to your opinion.

"Remember, when you had to like....spam cities and click on the placard saying things to yourself like "Need a house, need a house, need a house" during the ARR-Shb days? You dont remember that, because now you have a button that gives you a lotto ticket. You dont want to do that."

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Originally Posted by SweetestLily

For years these forums have been littered with the we need a lottery post. There have been probably over a hundred of them. Now you come here and see the exact opposite tone. I've literally seen a few of the same people who begged for a lottery now crying about it. So yes it's funny to see a complete 180 and no you don't need to "monitor" anyone to see threads that are plastered on the front page for all to see. Nice try though.

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i would be careful of drawing such quick assumptions. I far, far prefer the lottery system even though that doesn't mean that I may (in fact have not yet) won. That doesn't mean that I consider it acceptable long-term, I agree that instanced housing would be fairer long-term.

I would hope that SE is able to pull the numbers of people that are applying and then use that as well as as the feedback from the community to justify the effort it would take to develop it.

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Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas

i would be careful of drawing such quick assumptions. I far, far prefer the lottery system even though that doesn't mean that I may (in fact have not yet) won. That doesn't mean that I consider it acceptable long-term, I agree that instanced housing would be fairer long-term.

I would hope that SE is able to pull the numbers of people that are applying and then use that as well as as the feedback from the community to justify the effort it would take to develop it.

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I didn't say anyone finds it acceptable long term because it's clearly not. It's just what was asked for and now peopl see it's not all rainbows like they thought. There's only one long term solution really and that's instanced but they are hard against it because they want to keep the community feel which imo is silly especially when you still have single people owning entire wards. There's no community in that.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

I wish we had a J. Allan Brack in this dev team.

Oh no, not to actually DO anything substantial like making or directing content for this game oh no! I just want somebody like him for PR to come into these forums and do the "You think you do but you dont" thing to people here. Just for lulz.

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He wasn't wrong though. Classic died very fast.

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Originally Posted by Sairys

Seems trivial, look for Live Letter recaps that mention both. If you can't find it then it's more likely a comment from Mr.Happy than Yoshi-P.

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It very well could be.

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Originally Posted by SweetestLily

Lol. The people who camped a placard for 10 hours to lose to someone who showed up 2 minutes earlier disagree.

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Dont let them fool you. The reason they liked the placard system was because they could snipe-relocate into something far far better than what they had.

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Originally Posted by SweetestLily

You're entitled to your opinion.

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No one is really, you're only really entitled to what you can prove. (Interesting article here)
For example, you could look at this article which talks about why people complaining may often not actually be representative of the majority of players and are all different subgroups which only really turn up in specific situations.