Casual players locked out of FFXIV for indefinite time!

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Originally Posted by Denji

tell me you didn't read my post without telling me you didn't read my post.

what i'm saying is that many people aren't allowed to be on their phones at work.

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Sounds like some pretty shitty jobs. Even when I was working construction, fast food, grocery, clean room, CNA, and many more, I was allowed to access my cell phone.

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Originally Posted by Nothv13

Sounds like some pretty shitty jobs. Even when I was working construction, fast food, grocery, clean room, CNA, and many more, I was allowed to access my cell phone.

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Whether or not the job is bad is besides the point. From rules, to bad cellular connections within large buildings, subways and rural areas to being disconnected while you're in queue anyway makes it an unreasonable solution that many would not be able to easily utilize.

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Originally Posted by Denji

Whether or not the job is bad is besides the point. From rules, to bad cellular connections within large buildings, subways and rural areas to being disconnected while you're in queue anyway makes it an unreasonable solution that many would not be able to easily utilize.

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lol, I live in a town where I lose cell signal by moving a block away from certain parts, and work in a building with an electrical grid so old, the interference from it causes cellphone drops multiple times a day.

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Now, is there anyone that has a solution for this besides: just log in early. Just play early. Just quit work. Just quit sleeping. Just quit your relationship. Just give those kids away. Just skip meals with your loved ones.

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For a casual player those things you mentioned above are in fact more important than a pixelated videogame. Sure people don’t like the ques, but man just seeing this reminds me of a woman that didn’t feed her baby as she had to tend to something in WoW, think the baby died not sure if I recall it correctly but yeah just for the majority of players: don’t take this game too seriously that it affects your main responsibilities. In the end, it’s just a videogame.

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Originally Posted by RinaB

What i can't stand is the selfishness of people. "I can play so stfu idiot, game is fine". I have physically changed my sleep schedule to accommodate for 2 hrs of playtime before work and more on weekends if I don't have to do overtime or other responsibilities. That is already insane for a videogame and I also don't have dependants so I am lucky in that regard? This situation is gross and should have been fixed before shb as I've mentioned several times there were queues back then and prefered servers. Even the pre order sales numbers for shb was a damn good indicator the game was gaining a lot of steam. Cov and chips are no excuse for this shit. And before passing on people understand they paid the same as you did and many have subs going into the trash which is even more money, per day, being thrown in the trash in an overly inflated world.

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I can't stand the selfishness of some people.
"I can't play therefore no one should."

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Originally Posted by Denji

That said, I don't blame square at all. Population explosion combined with new expansion and chip shortage. I get it. But what you're describing is absolutely not sensible solution in the slightest and we really shouldn't be telling people that they need to potentially break rules at work just to log into a video game.

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I honestly feel bad for them. They had planned a capacity increase way in advance, they'd gotten the hardware pre-COVID, etc. And then suddenly there was this massive influx of players this past spring and summer. If the numbers floating around the internet are accurate, the influx of players was equal to or more than the expected influx for Endwalker itself; the fact that they'd already built up capacity for Endwalker is why when the wave of new players hit we only had tiny little queues appear. (My server went from "never having a queue" to like... 56 or 73 or whatever each time I tried to log in.)

If the population had stayed where they expected, that's what would've happened with Endwalker's launch.

But adding Endwalker's influx on top of that... like, I have no idea how they should've planned for a player population so much larger than what even the most optimistic projections at the time were. And with the chip shortage, there's just no high-end server hardware to be had. Square-Enix has outright advertised they're willing to pay multiple times list price for the server hardware they need, but no one has any of the appropriate hardware to sell. (Which is an issue I've seen impacting other areas -- including my own day job -- this past year.)

The situation's unacceptable, folks aren't wrong; it sucks to be unable to play, and doubly so if you're also trying to avoid MSQ spoilers.

But it's also a situation which I honestly can't say Square-Enix had any reasonable way of predicting back in 2020, nor one they had any way easily adapt to given the global shortage of server hardware (and chips in general). I genuinely don't know what I'd do in their position; they just don't have any good options.

At this point maybe institute like a 8 hours on a day restriction? I mean playing 8 hours straight is already unhealthy, but it gives the people who can login at 7am time to play and by the time the people who can only login after 5pm time to play as well. It wouldn't be totally equal as the 9 to 5vers would get shafted more, but at least they might have a shot at playing.

Currently it's impossible for me. By the time I get home and try to login the queues take so long I'm leaving them to go to sleep. And while I could afk bot or use remote desktop to login I'm the kind of person who would forget both away. I tend to come home and unwind playing games. Lately it's been watching movies while I wait for the impossible and give up.

But maybe I'm wrong, but it feels awful paying for something and not being able to use it. And the internet would ironically call you entitled. Which of course you are lol. You're paying for a service that entitles you to play a game. It's like the only time you can be legitimately entitled in an argument lol. Anyway people are stupid and think their unending support for some nebulous corporation is gonna pay off because they spend their days nights being passively aggressive to annoyed paying customers who have literally every right to complain. But again people are stupid.

But if it makes you feel better I don't have power so I couldn't play anyway. I haven't had it in 3 days and all my food is spoiled and at the end of my bitching to the power company I might get lucky and get a bill credit and a food credit. Let's hope because this crap was already annoying, but going on 3 days without power is worse. Thank god for power banks and your own office/car to charge them in.

What I'm saying is some of these keyboard warriors need a dose of reality. I'm posting because I'm bored and awake before work, but I can tell you honestly I don't care about queue times anymore.

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

But maybe I'm wrong, but it feels awful paying for something and not being able to use it. And the internet would ironically call you entitled. Which of course you are lol. You're paying for a service that entitles you to play a game. It's like the only time you can be legitimately entitled in an argument lol. Anyway people are stupid and think their unending support for some nebulous corporation is gonna pay off because they spend their days nights being passively aggressive to annoyed paying customers who have literally every right to complain. But again people are stupid.

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You have decent arguments if you say you simply just want to at least get the time refunded you couldnt play. As you simply pay for something you have no control about, and was promised. But there are some people that simply complain that they have the right to play.

That last one is a bit diffirent on that, since this congestion was already expected due to other issues. And if you think being unable to play a game, is a bad thing. Note that security issues can cause games to get locked over an extended time as well. Remember how playstation was offline for weeks at a certain hack? Sometimes things can be attempted to be mitigated by a company, but even those can simply have no control about certain aspects.

Idealy the best thing should have been to wait at releasing EW entirely. But this brings the issue: how long? If hardware remains difficult to obtain for years, than that is simply not a logical time to wait. There is a point at which a company just has to say 'too bad' and just push the release.

Im locked out of playing during the weekends, and can play in weekdays by trying to queue at a good time and hope to not face a 2002 at that time yet (for me they start to show up often beyond 6pm, but before that are still relatively rare). This is obviously not a solution, but a workaround that i can luckily work with. But even i dislike this queue because i know the issues in them (note that if you are at least able to play, it can mess with your sanity because it forces babysitting your pc. being completely unable at that point is on that a bit better since you just can plan something diffirent).

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Originally Posted by Titivillus

Square Enix saw the influx of people this year and should have anticipated this. They are at fault. I wish they would have delayed the game to get more server than not being able to play at all.

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Delaying it would not do anything because you all would complain about there nothing to do. No matter what they did none of you would be happy.

Who the heck wants a playtime restriction? What is this China? All that would do is cause even more frustration, and would barely help the queues - especially since a lot of these people who are logging in for their 8 hours are logging in at the same time. At best it would log out some professional afkers.