yoshi what are you doing to steel cyclone ):?

Why are people looking at this like it's a bad thing? Warrior is actually not changing that much. Beserk is getting a buff as well as whirlwind while collusion and steel cyclone are getting nerfed. I mean come on, if you bloodbath a steel cyclone you get full health majority of the time.

Plus it's a good thing. Warrior will still be a good DD and back up tank while also bringing Paladin back into the picture.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Why are people looking at this like it's a bad thing? Warrior is actually not changing that much. Beserk is getting a buff as well as whirlwind while collusion and steel cyclone are getting nerfed. I mean come on, if you bloodbath a steel cyclone you get full health majority of the time.

Plus it's a good thing. Warrior will still be a good DD and back up tank while also bringing Paladin back into the picture.

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nobody uses berserk or whirlwind, infact i very rarely see a DD war to begin with. warrior always be tanking,

You could cut steel cyclone damage in half and they'd still be more useful than a paladin.

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Originally Posted by Squiggles

nobody uses berserk or whirlwind, infact i very rarely see a DD war to begin with. warrior always be tanking,

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Because everyone is so focused on them being tanks. The point of the patch is to make Paladin's more viable and giving Beserk an actual use. Whirlwind isn't bad, I must be the only MRD/WAR that uses it lol

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Originally Posted by Leoheart

Exactly; Paladin does not suffer from an inability to tank, if you're struggling to tank on pld, you're doing it wrong.
I'll agree on the fact that Pld does need a bit more HP, but it mainly suffers from it's inability to do damage and nothing else.

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Pld as a tank has typically never been a high damage job, it's not meant to be a DD, but I agree that it is in desperate need of both an HP boost and accuracy, it would at least make Pld a viable tank again.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Because everyone is so focused on them being tanks. The point of the patch is to make Paladin's more viable and giving Beserk an actual use. Whirlwind isn't bad, I must be the only MRD/WAR that uses it lol

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Not the only one, I tend to use fracture and overpower as well when I parry.

I would like to see the main stats changed a bit. WAR's main starts are STR and VIT, I think? Thats why they have huge HP pools.

MNK should have VIT as the second stat. VIT gives more HP and MNK has had VIT and more HP as a trait in the past.

And PLD needs a bit of VIT as a main stat for HP and def.

So maybe change WAR's main stats to STR and INT or something. MNK can have STR and VIT. PLD VIT and some STR and MND.

WAR should be STR/VIT, Monk should be STR/INT and Paladin should be VIT/MND. No way Warrior should have INT as a stat for any reason.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Why are people looking at this like it's a bad thing? Warrior is actually not changing that much. Beserk is getting a buff as well as whirlwind while collusion and steel cyclone are getting nerfed. I mean come on, if you bloodbath a steel cyclone you get full health majority of the time.

Plus it's a good thing. Warrior will still be a good DD and back up tank while also bringing Paladin back into the picture.

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breaking one thing doesn't fix the other.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

breaking one thing doesn't fix the other.

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You seriously think its going to break the job? Have a little faith. WAR will not lose relevance, its role will simply be more focused. As these jobs were initially designed.

PLD: Protection
WAR: Crowd control
MNK: Fast Melee
DRG: Critical Melee
BRD: Wild card support
WHM: Healer
BLM: Nuker